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  #1164697 29-Oct-2014 22:04
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pcs:  but why such crap support from VF?


maybe the csr you spoke to thought the situation to be caused by something else?




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  #1164704 29-Oct-2014 22:13
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No response to emails that contained logs that I was asked to send. Over an hour on the phone to speak to someone if lucky.  No updates at all.  Months of issues. 
Yes, you responded very quickly Johnr and it is appreciated, but I have had absolute crap support from the so called support line.

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  #1164706 29-Oct-2014 22:16
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I am sure front line staff are trying their best and they suspect it could be a fault when really it comes down to the hardware you are connected to and no fault

I am sure Chorus is coming back to Vodafone with no fault, Have you got a ault ticket number from Vodafone you can DM me?



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  #1164713 29-Oct-2014 22:26
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There are at least two Watershed Roads near Palmerston North, one is in Hunterville, one in Bunnythorpe. Which is yours?

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  #1164715 29-Oct-2014 22:27
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I suspect a Conklin may be at play here - but will wait and see how this pans out.

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  #1164718 29-Oct-2014 22:29
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No was not given a ticket #.  Will do the logs again and post results.  I appreciate what you are saying but for a large company that we pay $105 per month for I personally feel it is not good enough.  How hard is it to send a quick email or txt message with an update?  I will shift to another ISP as this seems to be the only way to tell if it is a problem related to VF or not.  Thanks.

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  #1164721 29-Oct-2014 22:30
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quickymart: There are at least two Watershed Roads near Palmerston North, one is in Hunterville, one in Bunnythorpe. Which is yours?


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  #1164725 29-Oct-2014 22:37
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pcs: I will shift to another ISP as this seems to be the only way to tell if it is a problem related to VF or not Thanks.


You have been advised a number of ways to check in this very thread,

Speedtests peak / off-peak

Checking the modem stats

Finding out what type of cabinet / exchange you are connected to from Vodafone / ISP

Checking Chorus map

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  #1164727 29-Oct-2014 22:47
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You can also compare peak / off peak speeds with your neighbor make sure they are on another ISP I am sure you will find they are very very similar

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  #1164771 30-Oct-2014 07:20
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pcs: No response to emails that contained logs that I was asked to send. Over an hour on the phone to speak to someone if lucky.  No updates at all.  Months of issues. 
Yes, you responded very quickly Johnr and it is appreciated, but I have had absolute crap support from the so called support line.


While it's no excuse it's pretty much safe to say that 90% of CSRs for any ISP aren't going to have any of the knowledge that quite a few people on here have. If you rang up most helpdesks and asked them to explain the Conklin situation most would have no idea.

It's also a very real world reality that the vast majority of "slow speed" issues that end users report are nothing at all to do with the ISP or network, they're either end users a) expecting WiFi to be as good as Ethernet, b) refusing to understand or believe that their home wiring is likely impacting their connection c) users who once told (b) still refuse to do anything, d) high usage, particularly upload which can very easily saturate an ADSL connection and severely affect downstream.

If you're on a Conklin I feel sorry you. If you're not somewhere that is scheduled for a RBI ISAM upgrade then there will never be a fix for your copper problem, the solution is move to RBI wireless (which is a regulated offering designed to replace copper in situations such as yours) or to another wireless provider.

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  #1164779 30-Oct-2014 07:38
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sbiddle:
pcs: No response to emails that contained logs that I was asked to send. Over an hour on the phone to speak to someone if lucky.  No updates at all.  Months of issues. 
Yes, you responded very quickly Johnr and it is appreciated, but I have had absolute crap support from the so called support line.


While it's no excuse it's pretty much safe to say that 90% of CSRs for any ISP aren't going to have any of the knowledge that quite a few people on here have. If you rang up most helpdesks and asked them to explain the Conklin situation most would have no idea.

It's also a very real world reality that the vast majority of "slow speed" issues that end users report are nothing at all to do with the ISP or network, they're either end users a) expecting WiFi to be as good as Ethernet, b) refusing to understand or believe that their home wiring is likely impacting their connection c) users who once told (b) still refuse to do anything, d) high usage, particularly upload which can very easily saturate an ADSL connection and severely affect downstream.

If you're on a Conklin I feel sorry you. If you're not somewhere that is scheduled for a RBI ISAM upgrade then there will never be a fix for your copper problem, the solution is move to RBI wireless (which is a regulated offering designed to replace copper in situations such as yours) or to another wireless provider.


Thanks for that. Yes I should have come to geekzone first! How can I find out if we are on a Conklin and if there is an upgrade planned?

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pcs:
sbiddle:
pcs: No response to emails that contained logs that I was asked to send. Over an hour on the phone to speak to someone if lucky.  No updates at all.  Months of issues. 
Yes, you responded very quickly Johnr and it is appreciated, but I have had absolute crap support from the so called support line.


While it's no excuse it's pretty much safe to say that 90% of CSRs for any ISP aren't going to have any of the knowledge that quite a few people on here have. If you rang up most helpdesks and asked them to explain the Conklin situation most would have no idea.

It's also a very real world reality that the vast majority of "slow speed" issues that end users report are nothing at all to do with the ISP or network, they're either end users a) expecting WiFi to be as good as Ethernet, b) refusing to understand or believe that their home wiring is likely impacting their connection c) users who once told (b) still refuse to do anything, d) high usage, particularly upload which can very easily saturate an ADSL connection and severely affect downstream.

If you're on a Conklin I feel sorry you. If you're not somewhere that is scheduled for a RBI ISAM upgrade then there will never be a fix for your copper problem, the solution is move to RBI wireless (which is a regulated offering designed to replace copper in situations such as yours) or to another wireless provider.


Thanks for that. Yes I should have come to geekzone first! How can I find out if we are on a Conklin and if there is an upgrade planned?



Here:

http://www.chorus.co.nz/network-upgrade-map  (Fixed line ADSL / ADSL2+ / VDSL2 RBI)

http://www.vodafone.co.nz/broadband/rural/wireless/     (Wireless RBI - Vodafone plan is pretty good too)





What to look for: (Chorus)
1) Layers -> broadband
2) Layers -> RBI DSL   (This is the upgraded conklins / ASAMs to ADSL2+ / VDSL2).

If you are in a > 5 or >1 Mbps area. You are stuffed pretty much, its no ISP's fault.
Realistically its a problem of "needs to be upgraded, but not financially viable to upgrade".

If you are in a RBI green DSL zone, then you are in luck and its worth waiting.



What to look for: (Vodafone)
- Tick the final RBI filter for the coverage map after putting in your address.




In Summary:
- If you are on a Conklin (very small - often white metal cabinet) you are definitely stuffed.
- If you are on an ASAM (larger two door cream / green colour cabinet) you are better off than those on Conklin, but still stuffed.
- However if you are in an RBI zone (fixed line or wireless), then salvation is there.
- Just choose either fixed or wireless RBI based on your needs.









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