Vodafone VDSL using HG659 router - 2.4G WIFI is not usable

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#1668495 12-Nov-2016 12:33

Sunflower:

Will try factory reset. If you don't hear back from me, I have majorly stuffed up after reset. :)

It won't stuff anything up, it just makes it better. Don't know why. All my Huawei routers play up when I get them until I factory reset them then they work just fine. Not awesome, but as you'd expect.

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#1668498 12-Nov-2016 12:38

OK. I have never done a factory reset. How do I do that? Via the console into router or on the actual router itself?

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#1668499 12-Nov-2016 12:42

I have about 20 access points around that I pickup and run my access point at 40MHz channel width but I did an analysis of the channels/traffic in use and found that there was little between channels 2 and 5 so opted for channel 3 and it's sweet.

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#1668509 12-Nov-2016 13:03

Running a 2.4GHz AP at 40MHz is IMO inconsiderate in an urban area. The channel width is so wide it can knock out just about every other possible channel nearby. WiFi should be considered as an addition not a replacement for wired ethernet, but if you need such high WiFi throughput that a 40MHz channel is required, then use 5GHz instead where it doesn't have such a negative impact on other nearby networks.

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#1668517 12-Nov-2016 13:19

cynnicallemon:
I have about 20 access points around that I pickup and run my access point at 40MHz channel width but I did an analysis of the channels/traffic in use and found that there was little between channels 2 and 5 so opted for channel 3 and it's sweet.

Why are you running 40MHz?

In that sort of environment I can pretty much guarantee that 20MHz will deliver you significantly better throughout and overall performance than 40MHz.

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#1668520 12-Nov-2016 13:29

Out of interest, what was your previous router model. If it could do 2.4 and 5GHz there is a chance it is has VDSL capability.

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#1668526 12-Nov-2016 13:42

I think I have found the cause of the problem. These are the tests that I ran.

Test 1: Factory reset; connect using default SSIDs/password

Results: Good speed on both 2.4GHz and 5.0GHz

Test 2: Change network SSIDs and password

Results: Speed dropped considerably; 2.4 GHz displays previous speed problem. 5.0GHz speed is acceptable but signficantly reduced from the results in Test 1.

Test 3: Change the network SSIDs and password back to factory settings manually

Results: Good speed on both 2.4GHz and 5.0GHz

Test 4: Change the password for networks but keep original factory SSIDs

Results: Good speed on both 2.4 GHz and 5.0GHz

Test 5: Change SSID of 5.0GHz from factory SSIDs

Results: Good speed on 5.0 GHz but shown to be still slower than test 4.

Test 6: Change SSID of 2.4GHz from factory SSIDs

Results: Not usable 2.4 GHz

Something about changing the SSIDs of the networks seem to be affecting the speed. Really bizarre but it must be something Vodafone has baked into the firmware.

So for the time being, I have to keep to the factory issued SSIDs.

Thank you for all your help.

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#1668528 12-Nov-2016 13:45

;)

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#1668538 12-Nov-2016 13:51

sbiddle:
cynnicallemon:

I have about 20 access points around that I pickup and run my access point at 40MHz channel width but I did an analysis of the channels/traffic in use and found that there was little between channels 2 and 5 so opted for channel 3 and it's sweet.

Why are you running 40MHz?

In that sort of environment I can pretty much guarantee that 20MHz will deliver you significantly better throughout and overall performance than 40MHz.

This is from extensive testing at both 20MHz and 40MHz, 40MHz just works better for me - perhaps it's just the result of the particular access point with my wireless card in my ThinkPad.

But I do agree on 20MHz if you're suffering constant disconnects as that will help stability.

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#1668544 12-Nov-2016 14:01

RunningMan: Running a 2.4GHz AP at 40MHz is IMO inconsiderate in an urban area. The channel width is so wide it can knock out just about every other possible channel nearby. WiFi should be considered as an addition not a replacement for wired ethernet, but if you need such high WiFi throughput that a 40MHz channel is required, then use 5GHz instead where it doesn't have such a negative impact on other nearby networks.

Running 2.4GHz at high power is more inconsiderate IMHO. I use a medium power setting which is just enough to cover the area of my house.

True, wifi is not a replacement for wired but some devices are wireless only so there's not much choice in that instance.

I'm quite happy on 2.4GHz currently but if you want to give me your bank details I will quite happily move to 5GHz - about $600 should cover the access point and replacement cards for laptops and PC etc...

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#1671023 14-Nov-2016 21:42

This is the last I heard about it. http://community.vodafone.co.nz/t5/Modems-Wi-Fi/Vodafone-HG659-firmware-update-released/m-p/203457#M7226

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