Clarification of ISP settings

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#3017354 5-Jan-2023 14:06

@cyril7 ... thanks for that.

As a matter of interest, do other/all ISP's these days use VLAN's ... I recall the days when we swapped out routers, and then set about entering all the relevant DNS and IP addresses etc.

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#3017358 5-Jan-2023 14:19

Hi, 95% would use vlan tagging of the WAN traffic, on residential BS2 product vlan10 is always used, both for UFB(Fibre) and VDSL tails. By using tagged traffic you have the ability to use the quality of service features that Chorus offer, not that many would need it, but its there and hence the reason for tagging traffic.

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#3017577 5-Jan-2023 21:04

Which ONT is it? there are several versions?

https://www.chorus.co.nz/q

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#3017583 5-Jan-2023 21:39

@Apsattv ... I can't recall, but I can ask daughter to look. How would it affect the topic?

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#3017584 5-Jan-2023 21:45

While on this subject, I understood that the Chorus installed ONT's are merely 'fibre access connections', and not currently provisioned as Residential Gateways.

Is that correct?

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#3017594 5-Jan-2023 22:51

Rickles:

While on this subject, I understood that the Chorus installed ONT's are merely 'fibre access connections', and not currently provisioned as Residential Gateways.

Is that correct?

Most of the time, this is correct. But an ISP called Zeronet gives you the option to use the Chorus ONT as a normal router :)

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#3017721 6-Jan-2023 11:03

I used X20’s plugged directly into the ONT for nearly two years without a problem.

Just make sure to set the profile ‘New Zealand UFB’ on the Deco app.

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#3017723 6-Jan-2023 11:12

@halper86 ... many thanks for that, appreciated.

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#3017724 6-Jan-2023 11:14

Supplementary: If X20 plugged directly into ONT, essentially the X20 becomes the Gateway?

Does it then have an IP address (192.168.1.1), and can it be accessed via PC?

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#3017757 6-Jan-2023 11:54

It becomes the router. Yes, it will have its own IP.

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#3017804 6-Jan-2023 13:40

Rickles:

Supplementary: If X20 plugged directly into ONT, essentially the X20 becomes the Gateway?

Does it then have an IP address (192.168.1.1), and can it be accessed via PC?

The first X20 should plug into the ONT with an ethernet cable.

If its like the TP-Link Deco M4s that I have, you just install the app on your phone and follow the setup guide. Make sure to select NZ in the setup so it knows to try VLAN 10 (or not in my case - Bigpipe doesn't use VLAN). Once the first one is working, you plug in the second unit and follow the instructions on the app and they link themselves up. And repeat for however any other units you have.

The Deco m4 defaults to 192.168.68.1 as its IP address.

I am very impressed with the Deco M4 units - FWIW.

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#3017806 6-Jan-2023 13:48

I'm beginning to see that mesh units used as both wired and wifi routers/APs is really the future (for a while anyway 😉).

I like the way the X20's have a couple of Ethernet ports included so that individual peripherals (printers, TV's) can be incorporated into the network pretty much seamlessly.

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#3017818 6-Jan-2023 14:41

Rickles:

I like the way the X20's have a couple of Ethernet ports included so that individual peripherals (printers, TV's) can be incorporated into the network pretty much seamlessly.

So do the M4's - You are right - It is useful when you want to plug something in.

We have an HP Laserjet printer upstairs in our office. The stupid thing goes to a deep sleep on wifi. Nothing will wake it on wifi.

If you want to print something you need to go and press some buttons to wake it up.

That was nicely solved with the M4 that is now nearby it. Just plugged an ethernet cable into the printer and it wakes up properly on LAN and prints.

I was really surprised at the speed and distance the initial unit had compared to the old Huawei HG659 - The one that nearly every ISP gave away for years. We could almost have just used the one unit in our 2 story house - but a 2 pack at around $190 was too good to ignore.

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#3018063 7-Jan-2023 00:08

If the deco is connected directly to the ONT, can the USB ports on the ONT itself be used for anything?

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#3018107 7-Jan-2023 09:42

Pretty sure that any ports on the ONT are only activated by the ISP - but that mostly the ports are unused apart from the port that provides the internet connection.

Maybe if you post what model ONT, someone can provide more clarity - There are several ONT models out there.

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