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  #3094537 24-Jun-2023 19:40
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The need for a major rebuild of the power network is overblown, at least at the 400V final distribution level. Re-conductoring is quite feasible with overhead lines.

 

Most often, what you will see is that when a new mid-size development (say, a dozen townhouses/apartments) goes in, it will include a new pad-mount TX/substation significantly oversized for that load. WE will run 2+ new underground 11kV to it (ring-main or mesh, to enable isolating a faulted cable without loss of load), new underground cable to the new load, and a few cables to the existing overhead distribution network, grabbing maybe a dozen customers from the nearest heavily loaded transformers. You'll frequently see poles where two 400V systems butt up against each other, but are not actually connected.

 

 

 

Fatter/more 11kV supplies are an ongoing project, but they are a bit more arterial. Same goes for the 33kV cabling, much of which is getting condition-based (i.e. end of life) replacement with a higher capacity anyway. There's a new zone sub (33kV > 11kV) or two going in over the next decade, and again, they just grab maybe a third of the load from the nearest three subs.




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  #3095973 28-Jun-2023 19:43
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MaxineN: If OP wants to share the account details and their best contact number via my work email maxine.nesbitt@one.nz I'll see if a ticket was raised, if not we'll get it sorted and Downer will be in touch to organize a time.

 

 

 

Well that did the trick. Details passed to Maxine yesterday, ticket raised this morning. Downers tech called at 13:50 and I got home at 15:00 to find the cable gone at last. As I had expected, once everything was back onshore with OneNZ sensible conversations were possible and things could get done.

 

Thanks Maxine,

 

Pete


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  #3096126 29-Jun-2023 08:49
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notesgnome:

 

One extra thing (which is pertinant to both Wellington and Christchurch) talking about putting everything underground - earthquakes.

 

 

 

Cables on poles have a much lower tendency to be damaged as the cable can move and the pole can move. Things fixed in the ground when the ground moves laterally often don't fare as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I too heard about this while working in Wellington as a sparky "back in the day" however, now it doesn't seem to be an issue as all new work (subdivisions etc) all have under ground supply for everything?

 

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  #3096145 29-Jun-2023 10:26
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Underground is more resilient against things like fallen trees, vehicle impacts etc. I'm not sure if there's enough evidence to say either way for quakes. Slips are probably better handled by overhead, but it can take out poles too.

In a new subdivision, you're going to be doing massive trenching anyway for three waters and gas, and disruption isn't an issue. You also don't need to worry about all the fragile services already in the ground.

There have been mass undergrounding projects in the past, but they're mainly limited to main roads with houses near the road, and mostly flat. Tawa's Main Rd springs to mind, I think in the late 90s or early 2000s.

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  #3096217 29-Jun-2023 14:10
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That's one of the reasons I think TCL hesitated to roll out cable in Tawa back when cable was the next big thing (pre-fibre days) - the costs of having to have everything placed underground there would have been astronomical.


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