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  #3118108 20-Aug-2023 09:55
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Fibre is king hands down!




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  #3118113 20-Aug-2023 10:42
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As I was reading this, a very non tech couple in Hataitai just called me to ask why their HFC internet was constantly cutting out including their phone and what to do. I suggested turn it all off etc but if it continues will have to arrange to speak with One NZ for them where they have me added as their contact person for One. They are on the vulnerable person register.

They have 3 Super Wi-Fi mesh units as it’s a big place but it hasn’t been that great since they were installed. I suggested mesh so they could attach a streaming box behind their older TV one of which which is at the other end of the house to the modem.

The husband has a terminal disease so their time is mostly home on the internet so really want to get this sorted for them and appreciate any suggestions. Cost of fibre would be an issue for them.

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  #3118115 20-Aug-2023 10:47
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Is the phone over the HFC or is it a conventional landline?

 

A lot of the aerial infrastructure for HFC is in a pretty questionable state. I would be going outside and looking at the incoming cable, and where it hits the pole and house. Have the strain relief things come off their hooks, so the cable is hanging by a cable tie or staple? Tree rubbing through the line? Damage to the grey HFC termination box on the house?




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  #3118117 20-Aug-2023 11:04
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SomeoneSomewhere:

Is the phone over the HFC or is it a conventional landline?


A lot of the aerial infrastructure for HFC is in a pretty questionable state. I would be going outside and looking at the incoming cable, and where it hits the pole and house. Have the strain relief things come off their hooks, so the cable is hanging by a cable tie or staple? Tree rubbing through the line? Damage to the grey HFC termination box on the house?



Phone is over HFC. Cabling is chaotic hard to know what comes from where as years of various lines in for satellite etc. They have Sky with the old box that he’s hanging on to as scared of change. They also just mentioned that when watching on a device in a back room it spins constantly and not streaming. Her device in the kitchen also takes a while to connect to the network each time she turns it on. Kitchen is at other end of house. Turns out Mesh has made things worse, or it’s just a coincidence and there is a bigger problem.

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  #3118119 20-Aug-2023 11:16
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Eva888: ..lines in for satellite etc.

 

A line for satellite? Okay, that's a new one.

 

Seriously though, the legacy TCL/Vodafone cable will be black and quite thick, whereas the legacy Telecom copper line (assuming they still have theirs installed) will be much thinner.

 

Cable also has the grey (or black) node things on a lot of the power poles. If you have a look outside on the street you should be able to determine which is their cable line and check what the quality of it is like.


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  #3118178 20-Aug-2023 13:00
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The overhead HFC cable will be a triple-siamese thing, that looks kind-of like a ribbon cable. It has three parts that can be 'unzipped': the HFC coax cable, the two-pair phone cable, and the insulated steel messenger wire. Looks vaguely like this, though I imagine it only has two pairs.

 

 

 

I would expect any problems to be near the overhead terminations, where the cable has to flex. 


 
 
 
 

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  #3118188 20-Aug-2023 14:09
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Well my problem is fixed. Went over to the couples place and sure enough her tablet was getting no Wi-Fi and barely one bar showing. Checked the speed on the Ethernet attached to TV streaming box and it was about 85mbps download and 92mbps up. Turned everything on and off, still not much change.

She told me each night she turns off the Wi-Fi to her device and then back on in the morning from the kitchen.

After opening the Deco Mesh App, I noticed the network she was on was different to the Decos. That was the problem. Most devices except for his tablet were not connected to the Deco network. As soon as we connected to the Deco network her device went up to 250mbps download. The streaming box was also on the wrong Wi-Fi network so changed that.

Told her to stop turning her Wi-Fi off each night as it was searching for a network in the morning in her kitchen which is far away from all mesh and modems and connecting to the wrong Wifi and she doesn’t know how to change it back herself.


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  #3118190 20-Aug-2023 14:11
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Suggest disabling the other WiFi network. 


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  #3118410 21-Aug-2023 09:48
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The problems between keyboards and chairs are normally the hardest ones to solve. 


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  #3118470 21-Aug-2023 12:31
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Eva888: As I was reading this, a very non tech couple in Hataitai just called me to ask why their HFC internet was constantly cutting out including their phone and what to do. I suggested turn it all off etc but if it continues will have to arrange to speak with One NZ for them where they have me added as their contact person for One. They are on the vulnerable person register.

They have 3 Super Wi-Fi mesh units as it’s a big place but it hasn’t been that great since they were installed. I suggested mesh so they could attach a streaming box behind their older TV one of which which is at the other end of the house to the modem.

The husband has a terminal disease so their time is mostly home on the internet so really want to get this sorted for them and appreciate any suggestions. Cost of fibre would be an issue for them.



I am in Haitaitai on HFC with a Ubiquity Mesh and Cat6 a - mostly speeds in the 940mps range using ookla so am not sure why others have speeds so low?
I have heard that they system could crash any day due to poor maintenance. 

 

Personally Chorus needs competition - not just the Fibre retailers competing. I suppose only hope of that in future is wireless solutions (like cellular) rather than physical connection.  
  

 

 


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  #3118477 21-Aug-2023 12:38
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Wireless will always have a higher proportion of bandwidth that needs to be shared and can be overloaded far, far more easily.

 

Yes, it's easier to setup wireless and it's probably a great solution for lower-end users but someone using near 1TB a month is hardly going to be interested in a shared bandwidth solution - they will go for the likes of fibre every single time. I certainly wouldn't look at wireless if fibre was available.


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