One NZ 5G broadband: possibility to use alternate (non-TP-Link) hardware?

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#3254772 30-Jun-2024 15:48

Hi, wireguard can build connections both outbound and inbound, therefore will still work if one end is behind CG-NAT, this is expected behaviour for CG-NAT, can you please confirm the WAN address reported in the TP-Link router (not the IP address reported by an online tool).

Also as has been explained to you by two ex Voda/One staff, what you want to do is not possible, its Voda/One's network not yours, there are plenty of less restricted ISPs, but not on 5G

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#3254773 30-Jun-2024 15:51

WAN IP address of X80-5G and online tools both agree. Wireguard can work if the client is behind, CGNAT, but not the server. In this case, it is the server that is behind CGNAT. To restate: port forwarding works absolutely fine on this connection. Repeat: port forwarding works absolutely fine.

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#3254774 30-Jun-2024 15:53

Hi again, just nmap'd you address and port and its report as open, so maybe that subnet is not a CG-NAT one, again what IP address is reported in the router.

Edit, I see your post, yes looks like it is not CG-NAT, so there we go.

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#3254775 30-Jun-2024 15:54

I wonder if a local WISP might be able to provide a connection to do what you're trying to do then, if it's not possible with 5G? I dunno, just a thought.

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#3254776 30-Jun-2024 15:56

Router reports 49.226.219.105. Our VPS reports "Last login frmmo 49.226.219.105". All online tools report 49.226.219.105. Conclusive? Yes. Good. Now. Onto the primary thing. It's Vodafone's network? We know that. That doesn't automagically imply they can without reason tell us what hardware to use and avoid answering our question about sim card TAC locking. As for "less restricted ISPs", are there really? FWA 4G ISPs with unlimited plans that let us use our own hardware? We know T-Mobile does, but that's a bit bloody far away, last we checked.

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#3254777 30-Jun-2024 15:58

if there are WISPs in the WLG (Te Aro) area that can do this with the same level of speed @quickymart, please let us know, cause the speeds here are great but the router is *traaaaaaaash*

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#3254780 30-Jun-2024 16:01

Hi, yeah I get you clearly have a public IP, I was just following Maxines point that that public IP is normally associated with a CG-NAT region, clearly not.

As for less restriced ISPs, yes, but of no use to you, if you had a fibre connection then most ISPs will let you use your own router, but clearly thats not an option for you, as this is a mobile network, there are limits, both of the ex Voda/One staff who have commented have re iterated that for you.

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#3254783 30-Jun-2024 16:05

indeed, they have said there are limits. However, limits without justifications make zero sense. If, for example, they required the use of GPS in their routers to ensure use at a specific physical address, that would make sense. If they required TR-069 to do specific management tasks, that would make sense. But a blanket "no" doesn't make sense.

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#3254785 30-Jun-2024 16:16

ThatPrettyFreya:

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It's Vodafone's network? We know that. That doesn't automagically imply they can without reason tell us what hardware to use and avoid answering our question about sim card TAC locking.

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Er, yes it does. The first sentence kinda defines it.

Now, I know you'd like to use other equipment, that's great. However, One NZ does allow/support it (for whatever reason). So, there's nothing you can really do about it. If, when signing up, you specified that you wanted to use your own equipment, and they agreed as part of the sign up, then you've got a good way to terminate without fees. Is there another company that can meet your requirements? I don't know - you'd probably have to contact them (possibly via chat so you have a record of the conversation) and verify.

However, most companies will be protective of FWA as it competes with normal mobile which is their main revenue stream.

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#3254787 30-Jun-2024 16:23

ThatPrettyFreya:

if there are WISPs in the WLG (Te Aro) area that can do this with the same level of speed @quickymart, please let us know, cause the speeds here are great but the router is *traaaaaaaash*

You'll need to shop around/ask around, sorry - I wouldn't know what WISP's there are there. I would make sure you specify your requirements when asking them though so they can advise if they can do what you want to.

This site may be of some help to get you started if you want to go down that road: https://broadbandmap.nz/home

As an aside, I wonder if Citylink is available where you are? I know they used to have a fairly extensive fibre network in the Wellington CBD - but they cost quite a bit more than your standard residential fibre connection.

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#3254792 30-Jun-2024 16:26

Looks like CityLink is now called "Vital".

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#3254793 30-Jun-2024 16:28

Longshot question but does your apartment building have HFC wired up to it? If so, then a 1000/100 connection over cable is possible and you can use your own router

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#3254795 30-Jun-2024 16:31

Most apartments don't have cable - I remember when I worked at TCL it was a nightmare to try and get it installed in one of them, and if it's in Wellington CBD most of that area was never cabled.

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#3254881 30-Jun-2024 17:32

@ThatPrettyFreya I've read through the topic. You are right. This seems to be a public IP (which Geekzone shows for your connection).

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It's Vodafone's network? We know that. That doesn't automagically imply they can without reason tell us what hardware to use and avoid answering our question about sim card TAC locking.

Well, yes, they can tell you what hardware to use on their mobile network for that specific service because they put in the ToS which is part of the agreement to use the service. If you don't like their policies, the alternative would be to find a WISP.

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#3254882 30-Jun-2024 17:35

@freitasm hell, we'd be absolutely fine to use this as a 5G modem, it's just the routing bit that's trash. The weird thing is, the X50-5G, a lower-end model, has a bridge mode that would let us do exactly that. But this one either doesn't have it, or it's been disabled, for.... reasons?

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