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#709906 31-Oct-2012 15:16

You have to give them credit, they've gone from 13x worse than Slingshot to only 7x worse.

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#709907 31-Oct-2012 15:17

ROFL.

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#709915 31-Oct-2012 15:31

freitasm: This is a tracert from Slingshot:


 1 *.co.nz (101.98.*.*) 0.406 ms 0.586 ms 0.564 ms
 2 p89.pool-82.callplus.net.nz (202.180.82.89) 0.669 ms 0.935 ms 0.917 ms
 3 vlan7-cpcak3-s1.tranzpeer.net (202.180.81.49) 0.871 ms 1.112 ms 1.097 ms
 4 xe-0-0-0-4061.cpcak2-r1.tranzpeer.net (101.98.1.82) 27.364 ms 27.604 ms 27.585 ms
 5 voc-d.cpcsy1-r1.tranzpeer.net (101.98.1.122) 24.900 ms 25.084 ms 25.068 ms
 6 13335.syd.equinix.com (202.167.228.154) 24.881 ms 24.938 ms 24.936 ms
 7 108.162.202.66 (108.162.202.66) 24.998 ms 24.949 ms 25.219 ms

And this is on Vodafone:


1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms srp521w (192.168.2.1) 
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 15 ms 7 ms 13 ms lo0.internet.ivpn.pe25.telstraclear.net (218.101.61.124) 
4 19 ms 15 ms 20 ms ie2-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net (203.98.50.2) 
5 65 ms 19 ms 36 ms ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net (203.98.50.251) 
6 18 ms 23 ms 18 ms unknown.telstraglobal.net (134.159.174.41) 
7 42 ms 39 ms 43 ms i-0-0-4-1.sydo-core02.bx.telstraglobal.net (202.84.142.149) 
8 43 ms 43 ms 53 ms i-0-7-2-0.sydp-core01.bi.telstraglobal.net (202.84.223.21) 
9 161 ms 157 ms 161 ms i-1-0-0.hkhh-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net (202.84.141.210) 
10 195 ms 194 ms 193 ms i-3-0-2.istt-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net (202.84.143.53) 
11 270 ms 279 ms 270 ms i-0-3-0-0.6ntp01.bi.telstraglobal.net (202.84.243.6) 
12 196 ms 194 ms 205 ms p10026.sgw.equinix.com (202.79.197.20) 
13 268 ms 266 ms 281 ms 141.101.77.253 
14 215 ms 213 ms 213 ms 108.162.202.66

Call the new overlords.

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#709952 31-Oct-2012 16:49

Unleash Wellington:

Tracing route to geekzone.co.nz [2400:cb00:2048:1::6ca2:cb42]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 2401:f000:17:1::1
2 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms ge-0-0-1-0.rt-1.mur.wgn.unleash.net.nz [2401:f00
0:32:46::2]
3 14 ms 15 ms 17 ms ge-0-0-0-1.rt-0.fed.akl.unleash.net.nz [2401:f00
0:32:14::7]
4 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms ten-0-0-0-137.bdr01.akl02.akl.VOCUS.net.au [2402
:7800:110:511::5]
5 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 2402:7800:110:1::5
6 36 ms 35 ms 37 ms 2402:7800:0:1::ca
7 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms ge-0-3-2.bdr02.syd03.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [2402:7800
:0:1::4a]
8 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms 2001:de8:6::1:3335:1
9 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms 2400:cb00:2048:1::6ca2:cb42

Trace complete.

Speedtest 2019-10-14

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#709955 31-Oct-2012 16:55

Zeon: Unleash Wellington:

Tracing route to geekzone.co.nz [2400:cb00:2048:1::6ca2:cb42]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms ge-0-0-1-0.rt-1.mur.wgn.unleash.net.nz [2401:f00
0:32:46::2]
3 14 ms 15 ms 17 ms ge-0-0-0-1.rt-0.fed.akl.unleash.net.nz [2401:f00
0:32:14::7]
4 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms ten-0-0-0-137.bdr01.akl02.akl.VOCUS.net.au [2402
:7800:110:511::5]
5 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 2402:7800:110:1::5
6 36 ms 35 ms 37 ms 2402:7800:0:1::ca
7 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms ge-0-3-2.bdr02.syd03.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [2402:7800
:0:1::4a]
8 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms 2001:de8:6::1:3335:1
9 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms 2400:cb00:2048:1::6ca2:cb42

Trace complete.

think you're meant to be in los angeles :)

traceroute to geekzone.co.nz (108.162.203.66), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 174.136.111.233 (174.136.111.233) 10.969 ms 0.857 ms 0.987 ms
2 ge0-15.as01.lax07.mzima.net (67.199.135.101) 0.670 ms 0.665 ms 13.517 ms
3 69.174.120.237 (69.174.120.237) 0.649 ms 0.626 ms 0.790 ms
4 69.174.121.78 (69.174.121.78) 2.448 ms 1.950 ms 5.446 ms
5 ae1-70g.cr1.lax1.us.nlayer.net (69.31.127.129) 0.562 ms 18.161 ms 0.537 ms
6 ae1-50g.ar1.lax1.us.nlayer.net (69.31.127.138) 5.3 ms ae2-50g.ar1.lax1.us.nlayer.net (69.31.127.142) 1.616 ms ae1-50g.ar1.lax1.us.nlayer.net (69.31.127.138) 3.613 ms
7 as13335.xe-11-0-6.ar1.lax1.us.nlayer.net (69.31.125.106) 0.715 ms as13335.xe-9-0-7.ar1.lax1.us.nlayer.net (69.31.127.62) 0.755 ms as13335.xe-11-0-6.ar1.lax1.us.nlayer.net (69.31.125.106) 0.616 ms
8 108.162.203.66 (108.162.203.66) 0.637 ms 1.135 ms 0.621 ms

quite the small ping from there :)

that said, as usual, the ipv6 connectivity is worse:

traceroute to www.geekzone.co.nz (2400:cb00:2048:1::6ca2:cb42), 30 hops max, 80 byte packets
1 2a00:8c40:40::1 (2a00:8c40:40::1) 0.509 ms 0.963 ms 1.589 ms
2 2a02:748:d000:6::ffff (2a02:748:d000:6::ffff) 0.599 ms 0.618 ms 0.666 ms
3 2001:450:2002:42::1 (2001:450:2002:42::1) 0.767 ms 0.749 ms 1.329 ms
4 2001:450:2008:1001::2 (2001:450:2008:1001::2) 83.786 ms 85.197 ms 85.201 ms
5 ae4-40g.cr2.iad1.us.nlayer.net (2001:590::451f:1fb9) 81.851 ms 81.837 ms 81.801 ms
6 xe-2-3-1.cr1.ewr1.us.nlayer.net (2001:590::4516:8e8e) 81.728 ms 81.707 ms 81.626 ms
7 ae1-70g.ar2.ewr1.us.nlayer.net (2001:590::451f:5e76) 87.379 ms 87.422 ms 87.429 ms
8 as13335.xe-7-0-3.ar2.ewr1.us.nlayer.net (2001:590::451f:5f46) 81.625 ms 81.734 ms 81.707 ms
9 2400:cb00:2048:1::6ca2:cb42 (2400:cb00:2048:1::6ca2:cb42) 82.991 ms 82.969 ms 82.935 ms

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#709967 31-Oct-2012 17:04

So Auckland to Sydney goes via Hong Kong and Singapore. That doesn't seem ideal.

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#709975 31-Oct-2012 17:12

On Telecom ADSL with interleaving on:

Tracing route to 108.162.202.66 over a maximum of 30 hops

1    97 ms    99 ms    99 ms telecom.telecom [192.168.1.254]
2    38 ms    19 ms    19 ms 222.152.45.1
3    32 ms    31 ms    31 ms mdr-ip20e-int.msc.global-gateway.net.nz [202.37.244.222]
4    31 ms    30 ms    30 ms ae4-10.akbr5.global-gateway.net.nz [202.37.244.221]
5    31 ms    31 ms    31 ms xe3-1-0.tkbr9.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.74]
6    55 ms    55 ms    54 ms xe0-1-0.sebr1.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.14]
7    55 ms    54 ms    54 ms ae1-10.sebr2.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.242]
8    56 ms    55 ms    55 ms pacnet.sebr2.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.2]
9    55 ms    54 ms    54 ms CDF-0011.asianetcom.net [203.192.167.86]
10    55 ms    55 ms    55 ms 108.162.202.66

Trace complete.

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#709977 31-Oct-2012 17:16

timmmay: So Auckland to Sydney goes via Hong Kong and Singapore. That doesn't seem ideal.

probably due to lack of peering in sydney.

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#710012 31-Oct-2012 18:20

mercutio:
timmmay: So Auckland to Sydney goes via Hong Kong and Singapore. That doesn't seem ideal.

probably due to lack of peering in sydney.

That's something Telstra/Clear aren't good at. I had intended to stay with TC when I switch to fiber, but if they can't even peer and route correctly I'll choose another provider with better policies and customer service.

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#710017 31-Oct-2012 18:34

Would be good if someone would post a vodafone trace

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#710019 31-Oct-2012 18:40

timmmay:
mercutio:
timmmay: So Auckland to Sydney goes via Hong Kong and Singapore. That doesn't seem ideal.

probably due to lack of peering in sydney.

That's something Telstra/Clear aren't good at. I had intended to stay with TC when I switch to fiber, but if they can't even peer and route correctly I'll choose another provider with better policies and customer service.

well snap are kind of like telstraclear with sydney peering and better customer service.

they must have felt that sydney peering was important. i don't know why telstraclear doesn't.

although vodafone is better for sydney peering, so with the telstraclear buyout things may improve. the last i knew of vodafone support wasn't much better than telstraclear.

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#710155 1-Nov-2012 00:29

Hi,

Quick question about the proxy:

I am playing with some packaged scripts for a site I want to set up.

I started getting an error from the old drupal site (which is overkill but another story):

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1828007/Error%20%7C%20Drupal.pdf

So I uninstalled the site, tried a new one blah blah blah. Hmmm, it won't show me the new one...

So I looked at the domain through a web proxy (zendproxy) and the new WP site shows up?

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1828007/Dashboard%20%E2%80%B9%20My%20Blog%20%E2%80%94%20WordPress.pdf

Is this the transparent proxy messing me about or am I tired?

Jon

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#710233 1-Nov-2012 10:08

jonherries: Hi,

Quick question about the proxy:

I am playing with some packaged scripts for a site I want to set up.

I started getting an error from the old drupal site (which is overkill but another story):

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1828007/Error%20%7C%20Drupal.pdf

So I uninstalled the site, tried a new one blah blah blah. Hmmm, it won't show me the new one...

So I looked at the domain through a web proxy (zendproxy) and the new WP site shows up?

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1828007/Dashboard%20%E2%80%B9%20My%20Blog%20%E2%80%94%20WordPress.pdf

Is this the transparent proxy messing me about or am I tired?

Jon

if you want to get around transparent proxy you have to either host your web site on an alternative port or use https.

you also have the option of using http headers to specify caching.

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#710341 1-Nov-2012 12:24

mercutio:

you also have the option of using http headers to specify caching.

For dynamic content that you don't want cached you must set appropriate http headers either in the web server or code.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/49547/making-sure-a-web-page-is-not-cached-across-all-browsers?rq=1

For static resources like js, css and images that don't change very often set headers so they are cached and just change the file names if they do need to change.

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#710349 1-Nov-2012 12:35

Ragnor:
mercutio:

you also have the option of using http headers to specify caching.

For dynamic content that you don't want cached you must set appropriate http headers either in the web server or code.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/49547/making-sure-a-web-page-is-not-cached-across-all-browsers?rq=1

For static resources like js, css and images that don't change very often set headers so they are cached and just change the file names if they do need to change.

for dynamic content you don't have to set - content shouldn't be cached without caching headers. the reason static content gets cached is because a lot of caches cache based upon the last modified time.

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