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tripper1000:Linux: Nope not even related, I would say they want the 5Mhz used for Sure Signal for 4G capacityJasonParis Maybe he could tell us more and the reason why?
If it was a bandwidth issue, surely they would be outright axing the service, and not continuing to support existing units.
It's really disappointing seeing people gouging on prices to take advantage of the situation. It's one thing to recover your costs or whatever, but charging a premium on top is poor form. There are some people who could make genuine use of these things..
Reminds me of the scummy behaviour of people who buy up Buy one get one free offers and profiteer from them, and ticket scalpers.
I'm pretty sure the people paying top dollar are all going to make genuine use of these things also.
networkn:
It's really disappointing seeing people gouging on prices to take advantage of the situation. It's one thing to recover your costs or whatever, but charging a premium on top is poor form. There are some people who could make genuine use of these things..
Reminds me of the scummy behaviour of people who buy up Buy one get one free offers and profiteer from them, and ticket scalpers.
A couple of points:
- Ticket scalpers buy tickets knowing that they are scarce, in the process displacing genuine buyers, and only with the intention of flicking on at a profit. Ditto folk getting in on scarce two-for-one deals. In the case of the Sure Signal, everyone who brought one was a genuine buyer, and has genuinely used it for some period - as there was no way of knowing that they were EoL (except perhaps some VF staffers - insider trading on Sure Signals anyone?)
- In my house, we rely on the Sure Signal for one of our mobiles (the other mobile supports VoWifi). If we get rid of the Sure Signal tomorrow, we have to buy a new mobile with VoWifi support (last I checked the cheapest was around $350). If someone wants to cover the costs of a new VoWifi mobile, then they can have my Sure Signal. If not, it will stay plugged in and I'll keep using it. I'd imagine many others are in a similar boat.
Linux:
@tripper1000 I have used Wi-Fi calling around the world and saved quite a few $$$, I think VodafoneNZ are worried about losing roaming $$$ more than anything else
They can geoblock wifi calling though
Ray Taylor
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I see three points here
1) The spectrum could be up for renewal in a few years time (I havent checked) and vodafone might not want to renew it or wants to reuse the spectrum for something else - they need to start removing these from service now so they dont have a large outcry when the time comes.
2) The new RCG towers may improve rural coverage for many people who will no longer need these
3) They listen before they transmit so if a home suddenly comes in range of a cell tower on the same band then they can shut off (hence the long boot up time)
4) Illegal amplifiers are plenty available as an alternative.
We used to recommend sure signal to our customers daily. Now we can only recommend 2degrees.
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networkn:
Are all versions of the Sure Signal capable of operating off any internet connection or only the latest one?
All versions now work across multiple ISP's
raytaylor:
4) Illegal amplifiers are plenty available as an alternative.
We used to recommend these to our customers daily. Now we can only recommend 2degrees.
Your 4th point shouldnt be one... :/
As for the later.. rumours say that story will only last short term across board :)
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We have used it. To be honest I did not find it all that good. It caused various issues like calls going straight to voicemail without ringing handsets in the house and so on.
The cell signal has strengthed at the house a bit - about 3 bars on an S10+ - so the original issue (where we struggled to get even 1 bar) has gone away.

Geektastic:We have used it. To be honest I did not find it all that good. It caused various issues like calls going straight to voicemail without ringing handsets in the house and so on.
The cell signal has strengthed at the house a bit - about 3 bars on an S10+ - so the original issue (where we struggled to get even 1 bar) has gone away.
Final Reminder: Sure Signal will shut down from this Friday 10 December. If you rely on this service to stay connected, you'll either need to enable the Wifi Calling service if your phone is compatible or upgrade your mobile device to access it. To check if your device is compatible, visit vodafone.co.nz/wificalling or for more information, visit vodafone.co.nz/mobile/3g-sure-signal Thanks, your team at Vodafone
scottjpalmer: SMS from Vodafone just now:
i got the same txt
yet many modern phones are not working with a viable alternative including my Note10.
Really disappointed with vodafone. Its been a major screw up on their part.
After spending years recommending them to our customers and spending several thousand dollars on getting public units at my cost installed and providing bandwidth to them, I feel quite cheated by vodafone.
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Maybe that's a location in mind for the Government's mobile blackspot coverage thing? Doesn't look like 100 houses but there's a few there.
Looked in the settings for my Note 20 Ultra 5G and I can't see settings to enable Wifi Calling?
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