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#654532 12-Jul-2012 13:53

cyril7: hi gpon like most telco fibre gwar is one fibre core, 1330nm one direction ans 1440nm other direction
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Really? Most of the fibre I have seen has 2 connectors per connection?

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#654559 12-Jul-2012 14:19

Hi, if its multimode, yes but if its Telecom or other Telco singlemode then its pretty much always single core.

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#654569 12-Jul-2012 14:25

Moved the Pics to be better location, a few people didn't like the resolution... hopefully this is better, don't do a lot of online sharing

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#654654 12-Jul-2012 16:19

Much better. Thanks for that.

Some other things I've been wondering: What speed do you have provisioned? 30/10 or 100/50? Does it maintain those speeds well?
Also how does your connection authenticate? PPPoE, DHCP, or something else? Does your router have to do VLAN 10 tagging, or does the ONT do this transparently?
Does Xnet have any plans to use the POTS ports on the ONTs in the future? I imagine it'd simplify connecting for end users, not having to configure anything, etc, as well as allowing users who only wish to have a phone line (the number of which I'm sure is becoming smaller and smaller each day) to do so.

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#654669 12-Jul-2012 16:40

maverick: Moved the Pics to be better location, a few people didn't like the resolution... hopefully this is better, don't do a lot of online sharing

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I especially like the first photo, where you agree chorus can do anything it wants to do to install the service.... not after the job is done!

You've also published your phone number on one of the pictures... 099504xxx

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#654671 12-Jul-2012 16:48

Lol no its not , it's an old test number, I'm y but not that silly.

Also had to do health and safety for them with my 43k german Shepard, gave a couple of them a big fright as they were installing next the fence :)

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#654677 12-Jul-2012 16:50

maverick: Lol no its not , it's an old test number, I'm y but not that silly.

Also had to do health and safety for them with my 43k german Shepard, gave a couple of them a big fright as they were installing next the fence :)

Bugger, I was going to call and wind you up...

Huge stack of equipment there .... how many power supplies and cables creating a rat's nest of wiring have you got now?

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#654796 12-Jul-2012 20:43

Something else, do you know if the black cable they pulled down the street from the underground box (picture 60) to the cul-de-sac will only feed your house, or will it feed your immediate neighbours as well if they decide to get connected (via a splitter)?
Seems inefficient to have to cut up the concrete/dig excessively every time a customer near you wants to get connected, especially if they can just pull fibre through the already buried conduits leading to each of the houses back to a splitter at the end of the long black cable they pulled when they did your install.

I imagine when they move to doing roll outs in areas with overhead power/phone it'll be a far quicker process, assuming they put the main cables in the ground along with the multi-pair telephone cables, and then attach splitters to the power poles. Aerial drops down to the houses could then be done with pre-terminated cables.

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#654805 12-Jul-2012 21:06

Lorenceo: Does Xnet have any plans to use the POTS ports on the ONTs in the future? I imagine it'd simplify connecting for end users, not having to configure anything, etc, as well as allowing users who only wish to have a phone line (the number of which I'm sure is becoming smaller and smaller each day) to do so.

As per Maverick's response belowv in his earlier post:

maverick: Yes that's correct it has 4 x GB Ethernet one is used for the connection to the customers CPE and it has 2 pots ports if SP want to use the baseband service offered on the device, we wont be using this as it does not meet our requirements around SIP interoperability (I wont add what I actually think of this here I have already passed my comments back but they have to offer something apparently doesn't matter if it doesn't actually work with SP soft-switches), most providers will elect for a RGW (residential gateway) device any way.

Sorry Webshots was the only place I had to upload in bulk
I will upload a couple more photos for you showing the ports

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#654868 13-Jul-2012 07:29

Lorenceo: Something else, do you know if the black cable they pulled down the street from the underground box (picture 60) to the cul-de-sac will only feed your house, or will it feed your immediate neighbours as well if they decide to get connected (via a splitter)?
Seems inefficient to have to cut up the concrete/dig excessively every time a customer near you wants to get connected, especially if they can just pull fibre through the already buried conduits leading to each of the houses back to a splitter at the end of the long black cable they pulled when they did your install.

I imagine when they move to doing roll outs in areas with overhead power/phone it'll be a far quicker process, assuming they put the main cables in the ground along with the multi-pair telephone cables, and then attach splitters to the power poles. Aerial drops down to the houses could then be done with pre-terminated cables.

Its a single cable per house, the splitter is back on the pit, each fibre cable is run from there when a customer signs up.

Good question though and we discussed this ourselves on the day, over a few sausages and cold beer..

, the exact question on the concrete was joked about, we thought as soon as they fixed it we would order fibre for my neighbour and see if they have the same connection problems, if they did that the slab would be replaced 3 times in about 6 weeks ... but with all jokes aside this is the real problems faced by the service companies

It does seem inefficient as well and there was some discussion on why would they not pull all fibre at the same time would it not be better to do it all at one time which would make it faster when other customers of that ETP did sign up, the counter arguments was the amount of time , getting access to the properties , was it worth having fibre just sitting in the ground could actually be a stranded asset if the uptake is not large etc, so pros and cons.

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#654869 13-Jul-2012 07:33

antoniosk:
maverick: Lol no its not , it's an old test number, I'm y but not that silly.

Also had to do health and safety for them with my 43k german Shepard, gave a couple of them a big fright as they were installing next the fence :)

Bugger, I was going to call and wind you up...

Huge stack of equipment there .... how many power supplies and cables creating a rat's nest of wiring have you got now?

Actually it's really tidy now Antonisk, its all fed via a Single cat 6 cable now and all is hidden in a cabinet in the corner ... being a ex linee I like my cables tidy

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#654870 13-Jul-2012 07:38

Lorenceo: Much better. Thanks for that.

Some other things I've been wondering: What speed do you have provisioned? 30/10 or 100/50? Does it maintain those speeds well?
Also how does your connection authenticate? PPPoE, DHCP, or something else? Does your router have to do VLAN 10 tagging, or does the ONT do this transparently?
Does Xnet have any plans to use the POTS ports on the ONTs in the future? I imagine it'd simplify connecting for end users, not having to configure anything, etc, as well as allowing users who only wish to have a phone line (the number of which I'm sure is becoming smaller and smaller each day) to do so.

30 / 10 at this stage , yes it does consistent through out the time s I use it, manly at night coz I have a day job

Service is delivered by PPPoE, as for the tagging there are a few options

And no to the baseband ONT service, already made a couple of comments around this. its not a good service at all imho and does not integrate correctly with the softswitches used by the main players in the VoIP space, I have some comments on this service which I have passed backed when it was coming out but nothing came of it , but we wont be touching it.

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#654871 13-Jul-2012 07:39

maverick:
antoniosk:
maverick: Lol no its not , it's an old test number, I'm y but not that silly.

Also had to do health and safety for them with my 43k german Shepard, gave a couple of them a big fright as they were installing next the fence :)

Bugger, I was going to call and wind you up...

Huge stack of equipment there .... how many power supplies and cables creating a rat's nest of wiring have you got now?

Actually?it's really tidy now Antonisk, its all fed via a Single cat 6 cable now and all is hidden in a cabinet in the corner ... being a ex linee I like my cables tidy?

Man after my own heart.... of course the future is wireless but at least you won't be tripping over wires in the meantime...

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#655181 13-Jul-2012 17:13

antoniosk:
maverick: Moved the Pics to be better location, a few people didn't like the resolution... hopefully this is better, don't do a lot of online sharing

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I especially like the first photo, where you agree chorus can do anything it wants to do to install the service.... not after the job is done!

You've also published your phone number on one of the pictures... 099504xxx

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#655186 13-Jul-2012 17:21

Celine is a Canadian Goddess and the boys in the office love it when I play it loud

fyi all, just upgraded the plan to test the 100 / 50

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