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  #94840 12-Nov-2007 13:39
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Beware though that you have to sign a 24 month contract to get that $10 off broadband. So it's really $20 off the base price, but you can't get $10 off if you go on no term.



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  #94842 12-Nov-2007 14:46
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Can I haul the unit to work and back as I did with the "woosh" unit back in the day? having my home landline at work would be very useful!!!

I assume it uses standard Circuit switched network for calls.

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  #94843 12-Nov-2007 14:51
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grant_k:
DjShadow: For those of us with 3G coverage, are we likely to see a package deal of @Home as well as mobile broadband? or we still best to wait for naked DSL?

Yes, you are in luck.  From the Press Release on Voda's web site:

Broadband customers don’t miss out. Vodafone is offering a discounted mobile broadband rate to those who sign up for the at home plan. Customers can buy the Broadband Everyday 1GB plan from only $39.95 a month, a saving of $10 a month. Customers will need a Vodem or a Vodafone Mobile Connect Card (from $99) to access mobile broadband.



What happened to the plan to get broadband from this device eg like the Zauhause service in Germany ie an ethernet port





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  #94845 12-Nov-2007 14:57
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xlinknz:
grant_k:
DjShadow: For those of us with 3G coverage, are we likely to see a package deal of @Home as well as mobile broadband? or we still best to wait for naked DSL?

Yes, you are in luck.  From the Press Release on Voda's web site:

Broadband customers don’t miss out. Vodafone is offering a discounted mobile broadband rate to those who sign up for the at home plan. Customers can buy the Broadband Everyday 1GB plan from only $39.95 a month, a saving of $10 a month. Customers will need a Vodem or a Vodafone Mobile Connect Card (from $99) to access mobile broadband.



What happened to the plan to get broadband from this device eg like the Zauhause service in Germany ie an ethernet port




That's a very good question. It really surprised me Vodafone didn't launch with the new WiFi model in NZ.

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  #94846 12-Nov-2007 15:00
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chiefie: Will, when you got yours, can you do an experiment to see if you can try out faxing? I know Paul said there's no fax capability. *hehe*


Fax won't work over a regular Vodafone circuit switched call. You need to use a GSM Fax number which for this to work.

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  #94848 12-Nov-2007 15:18
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Was a comment above saying you can't take this unit very far as its provisioned to the cellsite, how do you get on in this case:

Mum lives in Te Aroha where the vodafone coverage isn't that great where she is. When you walk through the house my phone will switch between 4-5 GSM sites, further most site is around 20kms away from town. Would this give rural people an advantage of as long as they stay on the same cellsite they can take this unit traveling with them?
A good cellsite example is Morrinsville as I can pick that cellsite up from outside hamilton all the way to Te aroha which is around 55kms distance.

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  #94856 12-Nov-2007 15:58
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Anybody know steps Vodafone are taking to prevent abuse of the device or SIM? I am guessing that these devices are SIM locked - is this SIM also tied to the IMEI of the device?

 
 
 

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  #94858 12-Nov-2007 16:11
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The guys at the store told me it will work in other devices, and it will work in other regions, but this is against their T&C's and if it happens frequently they'll err.... yell at you and stuff.

Apparently if you move too far away from your home address all the time, they'll call you and ask if you've moved permanently. If you haven't and the device keeps moving, they'll disconnect your service.

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  #94859 12-Nov-2007 16:21
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willnz: The guys at the store told me it will work in other devices.


They were wrong - the SIM is very much tied to the IMEI.

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#94865 12-Nov-2007 17:06
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This is interesting: Jama points out Vodafone at home is subject to a fair use policy, but nowhere this policy is to be found.




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  #94867 12-Nov-2007 17:17
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BigFella:
willnz: The guys at the store told me it will work in other devices.


They were wrong - the SIM is very much tied to the IMEI.


Wonder how it would go if you change the iemi of an old phone that lets you do that to the one of the gateway device.

Seems very stupid of vodafone to do it like this, the fact they can offer this service on the existing gsm network at the price it is shows what a ripoff the normal calling plans are.




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#94876 12-Nov-2007 17:38
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richms:
BigFella:
willnz: The guys at the store told me it will work in other devices.


They were wrong - the SIM is very much tied to the IMEI.


Wonder how it would go if you change the iemi of an old phone that lets you do that to the one of the gateway device.


I would work, but you still wouldn't be able to be "mobile" because the device/SIM combination is locked to certain sites.




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  #94891 12-Nov-2007 18:32
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freitasm: This is interesting: Jama points out Vodafone at home is subject to a fair use policy, but nowhere this policy is to be found.


I have reason to demand that the term "fair use policy" be outlawed in this country. in fact after the Go Large saga, surely this evil word is a no go zone to businesses who do not want to waste time and money?

so now if everyone who subscribes makes their entitled unlimited calls, i can predict that within 12 months or less, vodafone will have to attend to jammed lines from overuse, have to call 1000 line owners everyday to sort unfair uses that is against policy, and then make a big public apology and refund everyone's money!

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joker97: I have reason to demand that the term "fair use policy" be outlawed in this country.


Funny I was just now reading something about doublespeak...

I really think "unlimited but subject to a fair use policy" is doublespeak for "limited in our terms".




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  #94897 12-Nov-2007 18:44

As I just posted to Jama's blog:

I think you'll find most telcos include a fair use clause. As I recall it, Telecom will tell you you're not allowed to swear on the phone... OMG! It's not "unlimited".

I just found this on Telecom's site:

We may also suspend or restrict any service in other circumstances if we think it reasonable or necessary. We will always do our best to contact you before doing this. In most cases, normal charges continue to apply during the suspension or restriction of any service. Please call us on 128 to request removal of a suspension or restriction.

and frankly I think that's entirely acceptable for an unlimited service.

I think a fair use policy of "don't leave your connection open permanently" constitutes unlimited for just about every reasonable expectation of it. It's a voice-calling land line replacement, not an ISDN line.

Seriously, what would you expect to be able to do with a service like this? It is, for all intents and purposes, unlimited in use.

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