Vodafone TV GEN 1 is it any good?

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#2286827 31-Jul-2019 20:17

Thanks tried that and all looked promising until routed back thru the receiver and same error “the content cannot be displayed. To display, please connect with the HDMI Input which supports HDCP 2.2 on the TV”

Ughh

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#2286852 31-Jul-2019 21:46

Managed to get it to work by routing in to receiver via a non HDCP 2.2 Hdmi input

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#2313514 9-Sep-2019 12:08

Bigred1978: Managed to get it to work by routing in to receiver via a non HDCP 2.2 Hdmi input

I've seen this before on an Onkyo AV Receiver. This product fixed the HDCP error: https://digitalimports.co.nz/product/triax-hdcp-converter/

Certainly cheaper than a new 4K TV anyway.

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#2313517 9-Sep-2019 12:12

OnceBitten: This is an interesting thread
The guy who came out to look at our uhf aerial setup said a lot of people are ditching sky and going to Vodafone tv.

I’m hesitant because reading some posts here seems you can’t record all channels and currently we can record 2 channels while watching a third channel and seems we can’t do this on Vodafone tv
Wife is an avid Eastenders fan and watches it on uktv on sky and she won’t ditch sky unless we can find another service where she can record eastenders and watch it later

Half way down the page:

What channels are available?

https://www.vodafone.co.nz/help/broadband-and-tv/vodafonetv/

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#2323991 24-Sep-2019 14:04

Is Vodafone TV any good? No. Remember back in the day when you couldn't record the test match to watch it later, and you had to watch it when it was broadcast live or miss it completely? You know, those dark days before video recorders were common? Welcome back to the 70's with 21st century Vodafone TV.

I don't understand why for the last 30-odd years we have been able to record what we want, to watch it when we want to, and yet Vodafone thinks it's 'progress' to dump that feature. My old Tbox was great for that. Sure, it crashed and was glitchy, but at least I could record the RWC to watch it in the morning after a good sleep! Not happy at all.

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#2324070 24-Sep-2019 16:31

Elgringo:

I don't understand why for the last 30-odd years we have been able to record what we want, to watch it when we want to, and yet Vodafone thinks it's 'progress' to dump that feature. My old Tbox was great for that. Sure, it crashed and was glitchy, but at least I could record the RWC to watch it in the morning after a good sleep! Not happy at all.

It is unfair to blame Vodafone even though I also hated losing the ability to record everything that came through the T-Box.

Vodafone is just complying with the legal restrictions made by the content providers and rights holders. You can still record whatever you want, it's just that Vodafone can't legally help you to circumvent the legal restrictions particularly given that all viewing is online through a data connection.

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#2324249 24-Sep-2019 22:37

You're right, it isn't Vodafone's fault about all the rights management. But I could still buy a freeview decoder with hard drive and record what I want off the telly. It is Vodafone's fault that the product I was paying them for (Tbox) is no longer supported, and have been forced to use a product that doesn't quite do the same job. It's like being forced to replace your truck with a unicycle; both are forms of transport but the functionality is different.

The topic asks if Vodafone TV is any good, and my opinion is still no. It doesn't do what the previous device could do and doesn't do anything better than what I had before. By the way, Vodafone are not very open and upfront about what it doesn't do, at least not in my case. A friend of mine also had Vodafone TV foisted upon them; they ditched Vodafone after 2 days and actually signed up to Sky (for MySky) instead.

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#2324340 25-Sep-2019 08:50

You don't say which test, but if you mean NZ v SA then it's available on TVNZ1 Catch-up - at least the Sunday afternoon replay is. I expect it'll expire this afternoon.

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#2325712 27-Sep-2019 09:08

Elgringo:

The topic asks if Vodafone TV is any good, and my opinion is still no. It doesn't do what the previous device could do and doesn't do anything better than what I had before. By the way, Vodafone are not very open and upfront about what it doesn't do, at least not in my case. A friend of mine also had Vodafone TV foisted upon them; they ditched Vodafone after 2 days and actually signed up to Sky (for MySky) instead.

I agree that the Vodafone TV interface is deficient in ways that are not forced on the box by rights holders. It needs a major revamp to remove inconsistencies and limitations in the user interface which include these two big-ones:

No previous channel button, i.e. channel surfing now means you have to do a lot of paddling to get back to some channels.
Can't view video while fast forwarding i.e. you have to make a blind leap forward and hope you skip the right amount of time so it only works well for ad breaks because they have consistent lengths.

My incomplete list of issues from 2018 appears to be exactly the same now.

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=243396&page_no=1#2142603

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#2325723 27-Sep-2019 09:24

No previous channel button, i.e. channel surfing now means you have to do a lot of paddling to get back to some channels.

What do you mean by this? The remote has channel up and down buttons.

Can't view video while fast forwarding i.e. you have to make a blind leap forward and hope you skip the right amount of time so it only works well for ad breaks because they have consistent lengths.

Coming in November.

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=254293&page_no=11#2321307

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When you have become familiar with it, I would be interested to learn if live video has fast forward/rewind or is there only a timer display?.

Visual thumbnail indication of FF/RW is currently in test but requires one more platform upgrade before we can release (to both Gen2 and Gen1). We want to be able to handle visual RW/FF on all playback types before launching (VOD, live, 3 day REPG). Current plans have this happening in November.

In the meantime, the timer-based indication for RW/FF is much improved on the latest firmware with a visual progress bar and more smoother experience.

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#2325732 27-Sep-2019 09:29

Hammerer:

Elgringo:

The topic asks if Vodafone TV is any good, and my opinion is still no. It doesn't do what the previous device could do and doesn't do anything better than what I had before. By the way, Vodafone are not very open and upfront about what it doesn't do, at least not in my case. A friend of mine also had Vodafone TV foisted upon them; they ditched Vodafone after 2 days and actually signed up to Sky (for MySky) instead.

I agree that the Vodafone TV interface is deficient in ways that are not forced on the box by rights holders. It needs a major revamp to remove inconsistencies and limitations in the user interface which include these two big-ones:

No previous channel button, i.e. channel surfing now means you have to do a lot of paddling to get back to some channels.
Can't view video while fast forwarding i.e. you have to make a blind leap forward and hope you skip the right amount of time so it only works well for ad breaks because they have consistent lengths.
My incomplete list of issues from 2018 appears to be exactly the same now.

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=243396&page_no=1#2142603

I guess that this thread originally referred to Gen 1 VTV. Now that Gen 2 is out, do the issues listed in your link apply equally to Gen 2?

Has anything changed between Gens 1 and 2? Is the only difference between them the fact that Gen 1 is wired Ethernet and Gen 2 added wi-fi? Has there been a software upgrade?

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#2325741 27-Sep-2019 09:41

eracode:

Has anything changed between Gens 1 and 2? Is the only difference between them the fact that Gen 1 is wired Ethernet and Gen 2 added wi-fi? Has there been a software upgrade?

The Gen1 boxs I understand are running ver3 firmware, the Gen2 boxs ver5 I understand there have been significant firmware upgrades and internal redisigns to fix many firmware/function related issues in the early Gen1's.

I also undestand that Gen1 boxs will be upgraded to ver5 firmware post RWC.

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#2325744 27-Sep-2019 09:45

eracode:

Has anything changed between Gens 1 and 2? Is the only difference between them the fact that Gen 1 is wired Ethernet and Gen 2 added wi-fi? Has there been a software upgrade?

There's a couple of hardware differences, but Gen 1 will get a software update after the Rugby World Cup to bring it in line with what the Gen 2 has now, such that they will both be running the same software going forward. They're looking at providing the same self-service functionality to broadband + TV subscribers as standalone TV customers have now as well. More details over on the thread for the new standalone service.

EDIT: What @cyril7 said above as well.

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#2325780 27-Sep-2019 10:40

eracode:

Hammerer:

Elgringo:

The topic asks if Vodafone TV is any good, and my opinion is still no. It doesn't do what the previous device could do and doesn't do anything better than what I had before. By the way, Vodafone are not very open and upfront about what it doesn't do, at least not in my case. A friend of mine also had Vodafone TV foisted upon them; they ditched Vodafone after 2 days and actually signed up to Sky (for MySky) instead.

I agree that the Vodafone TV interface is deficient in ways that are not forced on the box by rights holders. It needs a major revamp to remove inconsistencies and limitations in the user interface which include these two big-ones:

No previous channel button, i.e. channel surfing now means you have to do a lot of paddling to get back to some channels.
Can't view video while fast forwarding i.e. you have to make a blind leap forward and hope you skip the right amount of time so it only works well for ad breaks because they have consistent lengths.
My incomplete list of issues from 2018 appears to be exactly the same now.

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=243396&page_no=1#2142603

I guess that this thread originally referred to Gen 1 VTV. Now that Gen 2 is out, do the issues listed in your link apply equally to Gen 2?

Has anything changed between Gens 1 and 2? Is the only difference between them the fact that Gen 1 is wired Ethernet and Gen 2 added wi-fi? Has there been a software upgrade?

I got a new Vodafone TV device in June when I upgraded upgrade to FibreX Max / UltraFast HFC and still have the same issues as on that 2018 list which were the same issues that existed in 2017.

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#2325785 27-Sep-2019 10:46

For the record, I'm only talking about what is and now what is planned. It was 2017 when I was told that fast foward with video view was going to be developed. It is still not here

Aaron2222:

No previous channel button, i.e. channel surfing now means you have to do a lot of paddling to get back to some channels.

What do you mean by this? The remote has channel up and down buttons.

There's more than one way to surf. If you are only using channel up and down buttons then choosing the button you didn't use the previous time will go back.

But use any other surfing method and it won't work e.g. if I was on channel 21 and then I choose channel 4 then the up or down buttons will only take me to 3 or 5 rather than 21.

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What channels are available? https://www.vodafone.co.nz/help/broadband-and-tv/vodafonetv/

What channels are available?

https://www.vodafone.co.nz/help/broadband-and-tv/vodafonetv/