[WXC/VFX] Announcement - VFX Local Numbers and Termination in any Region

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#10372 18-Nov-2006 10:04

I have fielded a number of questions about the ability to have Local VFX numbers within different regions, ie a VFX Wellington Number in the Auckland region etc. I have also explained that this does break some of the NAD Rules for geographical Number Allocation and why we don't allow that at present.

However after quite a few comments and requests about this, the Mangement at WorldxChange has been listening and are working on some solutions / alternatives.

To this end what will be looking to release next year (proposed date is early March) is a new product that will allow you to purchase a Number in a local calling region and have it terminated to your VFX Number located in any other region.

What this means is that you can have a number in Auckland eg 09 950 3xxx but also purchase a Wellington Virtual Number that will be terminated to you Auckland Number eg 04 413 xxxx terminates to VFX Number 09 950 3xxx

The details are being worked out at present but a couple of points to note.

1. This is an inbound service only you will not be able to make outbound calls from that Number
2. This service can only be terminated on a VFX Number
3. Costs - TBA
4. Service Delivery Date - Expected Mar 07

This is an a heads up of our plans and not a lot of other details will be available at present, we will advise when more are come to hand.

We trust that this announcement will meet some of your requirements....we think it will :)

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#52921 18-Nov-2006 10:56

Wow - what a great outcome. Its nice to see a company being so proactive - listening to feedback, and within days/weeks, announcing the development of a new service.

Very cool.

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#52926 18-Nov-2006 12:01

Well, its a start, but hardly matches up what italk offer

Since its listed as incoming calls only, that means that I would be paying national call rates to return calls to the other city, despite it having no additional cost to wxc, and people would get the caller id of someone they didnt call in a different city, so would then not be able to return the call as a local call if they didnt answer it.

You really need to tell telecom to stick it, and that their number plan has no place in a voip world.

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#52932 18-Nov-2006 13:42

Sorry - double post (at work, IE7 is being a tard)

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#52933 18-Nov-2006 13:42

richms: Well, its a start, but hardly matches up what italk offer

Since its listed as incoming calls only, that means that I would be paying national call rates to return calls to the other city, despite it having no additional cost to wxc, and people would get the caller id of someone they didnt call in a different city, so would then not be able to return the call as a local call if they didnt answer it.

You really need to tell telecom to stick it, and that their number plan has no place in a voip world.

Actually, it's the Number Administration Deed that limits this, not Telecom. The NAD is a voluntary agreement between all the parties, and is managed by an independent third party.

But yes, it does suck :)

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#52937 18-Nov-2006 14:38

richms: Well, its a start, but hardly matches up what italk offer

You really need to tell telecom to stick it, and that their number plan has no place in a voip world.

We are not trying to match what italk offer in this regard as there are some fundamental issues with the NAD and geographical number allocation and the way they offer the numbers but thats their call not ours. We also believe that the VFX total service is the best VOIP offering in NZ and are very happy for the customers to judge that for themselves.

We will not please every one but will be offering a service that we believe will meet both WorldxChanges requirements under the NAD and the needs of our customers and we fully believe this service will meet those requirements.

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#52938 18-Nov-2006 14:49

How many numbers will it be possible to link back to a single account?

The one advantage this will offer over the existing italk offerings is multiple numbers linked to a single account. At present you can only do this with iTalk if you want to run something like Asterisk or buy a phone such as the SPA941 that can handle 4 lines.

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#52939 18-Nov-2006 14:49

Hi maverick,

Do you believe that Slingshot are violating the NAD with iTalk? I've spoken to a few people who believe they are - although their dodgy tricks with seperate legal entities to get around Kiwishare may be providing them with a loophole for the NAD rules too....

Sorry for going slightly offtopic - i know this is a WxC forum not an italk one ;)

From TSO-Determination-02-03.pdf :

CallPlus’ Interpretation of Liable Person

399. CallPlus Limited requested consistency between the TSO determinations for 2002/03 and 2001/02. It argued that a liable person must have a network and a company that supplies wholesale services to another company does not provide services to end-users. CallPlus Services Limited and CallPlus Limited are not liable persons as neither company has a network that provides services to end-users using that network. CallPlus Services is a retail services organisation that has no network and does not
route traffic.

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#52940 18-Nov-2006 15:49

willnz: Hi maverick,

Do you believe that Slingshot are violating the NAD with iTalk? I've spoken to a few people who believe they are - although their dodgy tricks with seperate legal entities to get around Kiwishare may be providing them with a loophole for the NAD rules too....

Sorry for going slightly offtopic - i know this is a WxC forum not an italk one ;)

From TSO-Determination-02-03.pdf :

CallPlus’ Interpretation of Liable Person

399. CallPlus Limited requested consistency between the TSO determinations for 2002/03 and 2001/02. It argued that a liable person must have a network and a company that supplies wholesale services to another company does not provide services to end-users. CallPlus Services Limited and CallPlus Limited are not liable persons as neither company has a network that provides services to end-users using that network. CallPlus Services is a retail services organisation that has no network and does not
route traffic.

Sorry I will make no comments about another company's actions

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#52941 18-Nov-2006 15:50

sbiddle:
How many numbers will it be possible to link back to a single account?

The one advantage this will offer over the existing italk offerings is multiple numbers linked to a single account. At present you can only do this with iTalk if you want to run something like Asterisk or buy a phone such as the SPA941 that can handle 4 lines.

TBA at this stage

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