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#116733 8-May-2013 10:38
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So, we just got HD voice (on just one network, and but still) here and I just KNOW I will miss it when I come down under. 

Please tell me that Vodafone has HD Voice or is just about to start using it.

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  #813563 8-May-2013 10:42
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No HD voice and sorry can't speak about future plans if we plan to enable it

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  #813566 8-May-2013 10:45
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Ohh woe me. Going back to the stone ages ;)

I will try to translate what you said: "Probably will happen in the future but not allowed to even hint to it and when it might happen."

 
 
 
 


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  #813595 8-May-2013 11:39
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Are you sure you want to go with Vodafone anyway?




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  #813599 8-May-2013 11:47
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Shouldn't I? What alternatives are there?

This is my situation and needs:

* Moving from Norway to New Zealand, and won't be able to get anything but Pre-pay until I am a resident. 
* Heavy data user, but don't consume a lot of minutes, texts or MMS
* Using iPhone/iPad etc. and want best possible speeds on data for these devices when I am outside of my own Wifi network
* Price is not unimportant, but good coverage and good data speeds are more important.

So does anyone trumf Vodafone for this?

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  #813617 8-May-2013 12:13
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2Degrees has 12gb of prepaid data for $99 and you have 6 months to use it.

I use that in about 4 months. If you use less you may find one of the others has a better package.

When you say "good coverage" where exactly do you need it? All three companies have reasonable coverage in most places, if you're considering somewhere more remote then you may find only one has coverage there.

There is also the problem that even in Auckland each network has dead spots.

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  #813625 8-May-2013 12:29
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That is a sweet deal, as long as you can actually use it.

Last time I was in NZ I was unfortunate enough to have to deal with ADSL not working where I stayed, and the most extraordinary awful service from Orcon (the place I stayed at ended up with Snap thanks to recommendations here), but thats a story for another day.

So I was stuck on mobile internet and saw that 2degrees had a good deal on bandwidth. Got a nice prepaid package and then discovered I could not use it.

This was about 25 km north of Wellington, and 2degrees there was roaming on Vodafone, so the price there was on their "National plan" (Should be called "we are mostly on Vodafone if you are not in the CBD area of a larger city). Thats a completely different price then their "regular" data packages.

So in short, I have a somewhat strained experience with 2degrees and their "cheap" data packages.

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  #813633 8-May-2013 12:38
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Where in NZ do you plan to live/spend most of your time?

Do you need 4G?




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  #813636 8-May-2013 12:41
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4G is almost nowhere in New Zealand. I travel around and like to be able to use my own data connections. Don't like using untrusted Wifi networks.

Don't have to be 4G, although that is a plus. I will be located in Napier for the first year, and then somewhere outside of Wellington. (probably at least 25 km north).

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  #813640 8-May-2013 12:44
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2Degrees coverage is constantly improving but if you're moving around I'd suggest Vodafone or Telecom.

Depending on where 25km north of Wellington actually is will make a big difference.

Probably best to buy a SIM for the network that has the right package for you and test the performance.

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  #813641 8-May-2013 12:46
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I think Napier is in the MBB zone for 2degrees now, so you really could go with any network.

Unlike Auckland or Wellington, Napier is going to have much less network congestion so you will probably have a pretty similar experience all round.

Personally I would go for XT. I had years of problems with Vodafone and moving to XT was a complete fix. But I have been out of NZ for a couple of years now and thinks may well have improved on their network.

We were back in NZ over Christmas and travelled the North Island top to bottom. We had one phone on XT and the other on Vodafone. Overall, we had XT coverage in many places there was no Vodafone, and overall better performance on XT.




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  #813653 8-May-2013 13:05
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jarledb: Ohh woe me. Going back to the stone ages ;)

I will try to translate what you said: "Probably will happen in the future but not allowed to even hint to it and when it might happen."


I agree.  HD voice is great.  Have tried it on Telecom SIP trunks  but unless the entire call path is HD voice  there is very little use for it at present.. 

Beside the me generation think that highly compressed MP3s are surround sound and the crappy cellular codecs we have now are  HD voice so I can't see it getting much traction even on VoLTE..




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  #813657 8-May-2013 13:07
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Trust me, its like with good smart phones. Once you get used to them you can't go back to something "dumber".

It may not seem that big of a deal, but you really notice it when you loose the HD voice codec and go back to the old system. Its like going from a digital master to an old 78 record ;)

BTW: Are you one of the analogs? The "LPs are better than CDs" crowd? ;)

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  #813696 8-May-2013 14:19
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Vodafone has improved dramatically in the past year and their massive upgrade as part of the LTE rollout and the rollout of 900Mhz in urban areas has made a huge difference in performance. The data performance of XT has done downhill bigtime over the last 6 months or so which is clearly due to capacity on their network.

I actually did a test around lunchtime on one of the new upgraded sites in Wgtn CBD. This is on my S3 which is a 21Mbps device so that is about the maximum real world speeds that are possible from 21MHz down and 5.76Mbps up.



As for WB-AMR support that would be nice to have, there are a growing number of devices now that support it but you have to remember it's only useful if you're calling somebody on the same network that also has a phone that supports it. With the big $$ NSN charge for licencing though I'd hate to think how much it would cost Vodafone to deploy it - and remember the whole backend of the network also needs to support this. It isn't just a simple matter of turning on a switch!

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  #813713 8-May-2013 14:54
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Yes Wellington region is now getting 3G Dual carrier on 900Mhz deployed, Updates can be followed on the Vodafone NZ website

http://www.vodafone.co.nz/network/speed/

Click on ' More ' below better coverage, Some sites are already online




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  #813753 8-May-2013 16:07
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jarledb: Trust me, its like with good smart phones. Once you get used to them you can't go back to something "dumber".

It may not seem that big of a deal, but you really notice it when you loose the HD voice codec and go back to the old system. Its like going from a digital master to an old 78 record ;)

BTW: Are you one of the analogs? The "LPs are better than CDs" crowd? ;)


CDs any day.. Was so glad when LPs were replace.  No more click and pop, changing sides every 20 minutes, no more expensive shipping if you bought them off shore  though I have to admit  when I bough my new HT system about 8 years ago i also bought a turn table as well and pulled out some of my NZ made LPs from the 1960s.  They were very good sounding compared to the crappy NZ made mono/stereo compatible ones of the 1970s and later..




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