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Topic # 12906 12-Apr-2007 22:01
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Currently operating 3 active phones it's time for a consolidation, is there one device that does the same stuff as these 3 seperate handsets.

Nokia 6234, Nokia 6275, Harrier PDA.

Telecom do not have any smartphones or any decent phones above the 6275 so they are struck off. it must be a GSM device with UMTS.

I have looked at n73, Great form factor, decent enough camera, good video recording, Good UI. No GPS sadly but a bluetooth unit might be an option.

JasJam, great and love the UI, but camera just not up to spec, asides that nice device.

SP-jas Nice form factor, UMTS, but so so camera, no 640 x 480 videomode or native java apps.

And a n93 which was huge and felt cheaply built.

The n95 looks "the bomb" and it can so almost everything i wish for. but it's getting very up there, $1800 for a phone, no way!

Best camera was the k800i, wow, videomode however was pretty poor however and it has other limitations.
still camera is not up to spec with even my old 2mpix canon.

My demands are high, probably insanely too high but here goes.........

Must multitask, ie, take a pic while on a call, browse messages or filesystem while on a call etc. Harrier fits this bill great, 6274 and 6234 do it all apart from being able to suspend a java application for say SMS or calls (unless a call comes in which I can take)

high memory in the phone itself to multitask. the 6275 has a reasonable amount (20 MB) the 6234 is pitiful and shows it (6 MB)

No content lockdowns. I want to be able to send an mp3 or MIDI via MMS, and not be "forbidden",  6234, bad bad, blocks this unless the extenstion is renamed to .AMR, the 6275 allows these files but the mms has not worked from the time I have had it so boo to Telecom.

UMTS........ Must have 3G... HDSPA would be nice but it's rather new so not expected.

Decently performing camera, 2mpix or more, must have good clarity and natural images even at the expense of less meagapixels. (6275 is almost on par here but even averagely low-light has this horrid green tinge) 6234 fails to impress.

Video recording at 640 x 480, the 6275 fails miserably, but the 6234 is suitable though a higher framerate would be nice.. the harrier is so-so.

Display resolution of 320 x 240 or more, must be a high clairity daylight viewable TFT (like the three current devices I own)

Web browsing support, solid "Wap" browsing support at same data $ rate (Telecom, shove your 5c/1KB WAP charges...) Harrier is the key here.

Email client, not a java based one either.

GPS in the handset like the 6275. (would be very nice... but it's a big ask!)

Deployable Java applets, both the 6275 and 6234 allow me to simply run the java application off the memory card without the need to install it, all the resulting config files (.RMS) are just placed in the folder.

Open directory support, not a requirement but would be nice, basically being able to place any mix of file formats in any form of directories, I can place a java application and run it from the "pictures" folder for example. 6234 and 6275 both support this.


Yup, high demands I know but I'd prefer to pay top dollar and get a high-end device that will do it all.



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  Reply # 66980 12-Apr-2007 22:12
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Nokia will be bringing out the N95, possibly with in next few months. Check out the specs on their website, I think it has GPS, 5MP camera, and HSDPA too!
It's a hard road finding the perfect phone ah:)




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  Reply # 66996 13-Apr-2007 06:23
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coffeebaron: Nokia will be bringing out the N95, possibly with in next few months. Check out the specs on their website, I think it has GPS, 5MP camera, and HSDPA too!
It's a hard road finding the perfect phone ah:)


The N95 is already available. There are imported handsets already in NZ.


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As someone has already pointed out the N95 is VERY close to fitting all those requirements. It even has 150MB of memory on board (before you add any extended memory)

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Reply # 67003 13-Apr-2007 09:47
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Nokia N95 and the device supports HSDPA 3.6mbps

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  Reply # 67041 13-Apr-2007 17:15
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How about a HTC P3600/Dopod D810:

http://www.europe.htc.com/products/htcp3600.html

Available from a few places in Auckland:

http://www.coolmobile.net.nz/product_display.php?id=349

http://www.etown.co.nz/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=4024

What the retailers haven't yet figured out (and therefore not jacked up the price) is that it actually has built in GPS (Qualcomm chipset) using this f/w upgrade:

http://www.europe.htc.com/support/software/htcp3600.html

I've had one for a couple of months now and just done the GPS upgrade on it.

Comparing it to your requirements:

Camera - 2mp, quality is 'OK' IMHO, though I haven't played with the settings enough yet to know if I'm taking full advantage of it. Haven't tried video yet -reso. Similar camera to the JASJAM though... Video is CIF res (352 x 288)

Connectivity - has pretty much everything, UMTS/HSDPA (on all bands in use worldwide 'cept for the new T Mobile 1700mhz service), quad band GSM, 802.11g, BT etc etc

Memory/Multitasking - heaps and it is a WM device so multitasking is not a prob

File system stuff - about as open as a PC

Size - thinner than a JASJAM but no keyboard.



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  Reply # 67071 13-Apr-2007 23:16
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I ended up buying a SP-Jas .... for now.... Better to keep carrying the Pentax s5i (tiny camera) alongside it for the pics....

The decision was made due to general solid contruction, IE, Opera, fully fledged file explorer (Total Commander CE)and no lockdowns for media. Also a big desicion was if there is a feature missing, I can simply load it on from the hoards of them available.

The n95 looks to be the most amazing phone ever relased... but, unless it's miles ahead of the poorly made n73's I looked at tonight, Nokia might get the flick for good.


Must multitask, SP-JAs fits this nicely....

high memory in the phone itself to multitask. 64 megs, plenty

No content lockdowns. not at all! :-)

UMTS........ Yes.

Decently performing camera, well it's OK, Video could be better but decent lens and natural images and ability to turn "enhancement" off.

Video recording.....  abysmal, oh well...

Display resolution of 320 x 240 or more, great screen, dunno about daylight visible...

Web browsing support, Both, IE or opera... nice.

Email client, not a java based one either. Yes..... and if not good enough, I can just shove in another!

GPS in the handset like the 6275. ...nope... but I still have the 6275! and I can possibly run a bluetooth one with proper mapping software on this... let's hunt some down.

Deployable Java applets,  Tao java is included and it's got a good memory so good enough.
It can simply "add or remove" to it's inbuilt bank from the "library" on the memory card...............


Cheers for suggestions guys.....I'll certainly keep the n95 as a thought but I must see a real one (which should not bee too far away) the youtube videos show it to be leaps ahead of the current range..

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