A tad confused

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leo0787sx

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#131151 10-Oct-2013 15:09

Hey guys,

Have been looking through the information here and still a little confused so wondering if someone can put it in black and white for me :P

I'm currently on cable / inhome WarpSpeed 100G with Vodafone. I also have Sky with Sky themselves, hated the T-Box.

I noticed I can now go to UFB - what will this add over cable? Are there any benefits?

Also noticed that some pictures on Vodafone site were of the Sky decoder not the T-Box, does this mean they are no longer using the T-Box and no longer having all the issues? It would be cheaper for me to combine them all but heard lots of issues with the T-Box so haven't bothered.

Thanks guys.

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#912132 10-Oct-2013 15:16

Are you in a live UFB area?

leo0787sx

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#912133 10-Oct-2013 15:17

The address checker said I do, the reason I checked is Chorus were digging up the road outside my house last week :P

johnr

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#912134 10-Oct-2013 15:18

If they were only digging up out your place last week laying fibre I would be amazed if it's live now

leo0787sx

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#912145 10-Oct-2013 15:28

I'm just going by the checker on the website, the businesses over the road have had it for months so maybe most was done or the digging could of been unrelated.

Address Checker
Here are the Vodafone services we may be able to offer you at:
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Standard Broadband & Home Phone (Cable) ›
Ultra Fast Broadband & Home Phone (Cable) ›
Ultra Fast Naked Broadband (Cable) ›
Vodafone TV ›

johnr

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#912148 10-Oct-2013 15:30

Cable is not UFB

leo0787sx

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#912151 10-Oct-2013 15:37

I thought Ultra Fast Broadband = UFB?

johnr

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#912154 10-Oct-2013 15:44

Cable is the HFC network owned now by Vodafone ex Telstraclear

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Bee

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#912158 10-Oct-2013 15:48

Cable is fast but its not Fibre.

Doing your best is much more important than being the best.

uglyb0b

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#912194 10-Oct-2013 17:33

leo0787sx: I thought Ultra Fast Broadband = UFB?

A fair assumption to make, considering that Vodafone are marketing both cable and fibre as UFB. However to clarify things for you, actual UFB is the fibre network being rolled out by the government. Cable is not UFB, as John mentioned.

"Ultra fast broadband" is what Vodafone are marketing cable as, which I think is a stupid idea, being that ultra fast broadband is already a thing, and is a different thing to what they are calling their cable network. Needless confusion really, they could easily call it a different "adjective adjective broadband", rather than naming it the same as a thing that already exists.

hamish225

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#913251 10-Oct-2013 20:17

uglyb0b:
leo0787sx: I thought Ultra Fast Broadband = UFB?

A fair assumption to make, considering that Vodafone are marketing both cable and fibre as UFB. However to clarify things for you, actual UFB is the fibre network being rolled out by the government. Cable is not UFB, as John mentioned.

"Ultra fast broadband" is what Vodafone are marketing cable as, which I think is a stupid idea, being that ultra fast broadband is already a thing, and is a different thing to what they are calling their cable network. Needless confusion really, they could easily call it a different "adjective adjective broadband", rather than naming it the same as a thing that already exists.

anyone remember PDQ broadband? :P

*Insert big spe*dtest result here*

Coil

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#913325 10-Oct-2013 22:17

uglyb0b:
leo0787sx: I thought Ultra Fast Broadband = UFB?

A fair assumption to make, considering that Vodafone are marketing both cable and fibre as UFB. However to clarify things for you, actual UFB is the fibre network being rolled out by the government. Cable is not UFB, as John mentioned.

"Ultra fast broadband" is what Vodafone are marketing cable as, which I think is a stupid idea, being that ultra fast broadband is already a thing, and is a different thing to what they are calling their cable network. Needless confusion really, they could easily call it a different "adjective adjective broadband", rather than naming it the same as a thing that already exists.

Cable is ultra fast broadband. You can get up to 130Mbps download on it, (Best i have seen is 136Mbps, yes that is more than the advertised limit...)

uglyb0b

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#913375 10-Oct-2013 23:51

TimA:
Cable is ultra fast broadband. You can get up to 130Mbps download on it, (Best i have seen is 136Mbps, yes that is more than the advertised limit...)

Cable is fast, but it is not "ultra fast broadband". That group of adjectives is already associated with something else. Being that the government's fibre campaign is UFB, calling something else by the same name is still misleading.

I don't disagree that cable is fast, it clearly is, the problem I have is that it is being called by the name of something that it is not. This is not to say that it is not "ultra fast" it is to say that "ultra fast broadband" is already a thing, and cable is not it.

Also, from what I have read, the government's classification of UFB is a fibre network that supports a minimum of 100 mbps down and 50 mbps up. As far as I am aware, cable offers a maximum of 10 mbps up.

So again to clarify, I have no problem with cable being called fast. I have a problem with it being called by the name of an existing (and different) product. Let's put it this way - if a customer goes in to a Vodafone store and asks to sign up to ultra fast broadband, there should not be any confusion around what they are asking for.

hamish225

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#913385 11-Oct-2013 00:38

i recently had to explain the difference between telecoms 'ultra vdsl' and the governments UFB to my nana.

so yes, it is misleading.

obviously cable and vdsl are both fast, they arent the governments FTTH roll-out.

*Insert big spe*dtest result here*

leo0787sx

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#913408 11-Oct-2013 08:24

Thank you guys, so when I do get Fiber the main benefit will be better wiring meaning better quality and faster speeds. I do feel we are at the point now that fast speeds is only useful for multiple computers.

Also anyone able to answer this from my original post:
"Noticed that some pictures on Vodafone site were of the Sky decoder not the T-Box, does this mean they are no longer using the T-Box and no longer having all the issues? It would be cheaper for me to combine them all but heard lots of issues with the T-Box so haven't bothered."

johnr

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#913421 11-Oct-2013 08:26

The T Box has had a lot of work since Vodafone got hold of TCL

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