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#139042 25-Jan-2014 18:48
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Hi currently my modem is set up with default settings for PPOA.
I believe that to get IPTV reliably, you need PPOE bridged and I dont know how to go about it having tried to configure unsuccessfully.
Does anyone know the settings I should be applying for TelstraClear modem PPOE??
A search for IPTV adsl settings has not helped.
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  #974242 25-Jan-2014 18:51
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First of all what IPTV product are you talking about? I can't see any reason in the world why you would need PPPoE.




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  #974245 25-Jan-2014 18:54
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Wholesale ADSL connections here in NZ use PPPoA by default on VPI/VCI 100/10. If you're on an ISAM the ISAM actually converts this to PPPoE for the Ethernet backhaul back to your ISP. You can use VPI/VCI 110/0 with a VLAN10 on the WAN to use PPPoE over ADSL2+ but your ISP needs to support this as the connection is delivered over a different VLAN (+1600 compared to your normal VLAN).

If you're on ATM only PPPoA is supported because this goes over the ATM backhaul to your ISP.

So to sum it up your question doesn't really make a lot of sense - IPTV will work fine over both and both by default use a MTU of 1492.


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  #974247 25-Jan-2014 18:59
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^Some ISPs internationally can do IPTV on a separate ATM PVC to internet access.

Anyway it sounds like you're confusing IPTV (which is usually a TV service you buy from your ISP delivered over broadband) and just internet streaming (YouTube, any other streaming site on the internet etc.)



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  #974254 25-Jan-2014 19:08
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Short answer: No
Do you mean an IPTV like Roku or Western Digital IPTV setups. In that case they just need network access. It shouldnt have any reason to change your modem config or WAN setup.

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  #974294 25-Jan-2014 20:18
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sbiddle: First of all what IPTV product are you talking about? I can't see any reason in the world why you would need PPPoE.


hi I'm using an openbox x5.
With its default tvlist.txt of about 200 iptv streams, only a few work, and those TV do are poor. Whereas using its YouTube app, video is fine.

MTU is set at 1492 thanks.

So from info on this thread thanks it would seem that there is not much I can play with as PPOA is fixed with TelstraClear correct?

Is it possible that I could have a dialogue with TC to get them to open some ports or whatever that anyone can suggest?

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  #974295 25-Jan-2014 20:24
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ageorge:
sbiddle: First of all what IPTV product are you talking about? I can't see any reason in the world why you would need PPPoE.


hi I'm using an openbox x5.
With its default tvlist.txt of about 200 iptv streams, only a few work, and those TV do are poor. Whereas using its YouTube app, video is fine.


This just runs over Ethernet, Has no relevance to PPPOE or PPPOA requirements...

 
 
 

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  #974304 25-Jan-2014 20:30
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TimA:
This just runs over Ethernet, Has no relevance to PPPOE or PPPOA requirements...


Well it seems strange that I can get great youtube on the same device, and on my desktop which runs off same network the streams from TVNZondemand are fine, but they are not available as IPTV source for this box eg you need a web browser to start the stream off which X5 does not have.

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  #974308 25-Jan-2014 20:37
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Your issue is nothing at all to do with PPPoA/PPPoE and changing this won't make any difference.

If you have poor quality streams you need to start looking where the content comes from. If links aren't working they're presumably dead or geoblocked to stop them working outside the country they originate from.



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  #974319 25-Jan-2014 20:51
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sbiddle: Your issue is nothing at all to do with PPPoA/PPPoE and changing this won't make any difference.

If you have poor quality streams you need to start looking where the content comes from. If links aren't working they're presumably dead or geoblocked to stop them working outside the country they originate from.



If it werent for the fact that youtube works so well I would be in total agreement. These streams are world-wide and none work well.
Is it possibly:
a) the box
b) the modem

I cant change the box, but can upgrade the firmware.
I can change the modem from ASUS WL600g to DLINK DSL-G604T

Ive gone through the latest tvlists to minimise dead links.

Anything else?

Thanks kindly.

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  #974323 25-Jan-2014 20:57
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ageorge:
sbiddle: Your issue is nothing at all to do with PPPoA/PPPoE and changing this won't make any difference.

If you have poor quality streams you need to start looking where the content comes from. If links aren't working they're presumably dead or geoblocked to stop them working outside the country they originate from.



If it werent for the fact that youtube works so well I would be in total agreement. These streams are world-wide and none work well.
Is it possibly:
a) the box
b) the modem

I cant change the box, but can upgrade the firmware.
I can change the modem from ASUS WL600g to DLINK DSL-G604T

Ive gone through the latest tvlists to minimise dead links.

Anything else?

Thanks kindly.


Youtube is hosted locally. Depends on what you are trying to watch, Anything that isnt in USA or AU is going to be marginal.

This isnt related to the modem or the STB*


* Set Top Box

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  #974327 25-Jan-2014 21:00
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TimA:

Youtube is hosted locally. Depends on what you are trying to watch, Anything that isnt in USA or AU is going to be marginal.

This isnt related to the modem or the STB*


* Set Top Box


The box needs a browser to get access to local streams then.  Pity :-(


Thanks for your time.

 
 
 
 

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  #974369 25-Jan-2014 22:34
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I've just searched for "openbox x5" and it seems, as a product it doesn't exist. I mean you find these on Trade Me, on Alibaba, on dropships and eBay. But can't find a manufacturer, specs, etc.

Looking at some discussions, what they call "IPTV" is really streaming, which means no quality of service guarantee, unlike IPTV services offered by ISPs.

I'd say the problem is where the content is coming from and the receiver, not the ISP or modem.





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  #974436 26-Jan-2014 00:44
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freitasm:
I'd say the problem is where the content is coming from and the receiver, not the ISP or modem.



Probably hosted in Europe or USA on limited uplink. 

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