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Topic # 150234 15-Jul-2014 22:01
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Hello everybody

I have  two Telstraclear modems on the cable network coming into the house. The modem connected to my PCs via a NetGear N600 ethernet port is a Motorola Surfboard SB5100. All works very well

The other Motorola modem SB5101 is connected to a decoder Telstraclear ADB Model I-CAN-300C. I get the Vodafone TV channels. The outputs are S-Video and RCA Video and L/R audio. These outputs are currently connected to a Sony DVD/Recorder which is then connected via HDMI to a Sony 32" TV. Obviously the output quality is limited given the output from the decoder. 

Very soon to get a 48" TV I decided to see if I could get a decoder with a better output preferably HDMI. As the TV also does recording to a USB drive as well as time shifting etc I will have no need for the DVD/ recorder. I will get a Blu-Ray player to connect direct to the TV.

I contacted VF about upgrading the decoder and was told that I would have to get a decoder/recorder as not possible just to get a new decoder and I needed a new plan. I was on an old INhome plan 40gig and TV. I was told that the output from the decoder/recorder was HDMI

I signed up for a 80gig Ultra Fast plus Vodafone TV (Basic SKY HD) and also changed my landline phone from Telecom keeping the number. Overall I now get double the data and pay less than half for the phone so in total I am saving money.

There appears to no charge for the phone change ( I didn't realise that they would have to change the phone wiring in the house) nor the new digital recorder and there is a free doscis 3 modem ( which assume is for the new TV  

I was sent the order form and would like some advice as to whether I will get what I am trying to achieve.

I am a bit confused with the terminology

Is the decoder now in the digital recorder or an I getting a recorder PLUS a new decoder which has HDMI out put.?

As the recorder seems to be free then there is not problem ( although more clutter on the cabinet!!!) 
 

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  Reply # 1089683 16-Jul-2014 07:19
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The ADB decoders are in the process of being dumped, it won't be long before everybody has to move of that platform as it will be decommissioned and everybody will be moved to the t-box.


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  Reply # 1089695 16-Jul-2014 07:50
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I wonder why both Vodafone and Sky only do HDMI off their recording decoders.  




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  Reply # 1089698 16-Jul-2014 07:52
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davidcole: I wonder why both Vodafone and Sky only do HDMI off their recording decoders.  


T-box has composite output as well.


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  Reply # 1089701 16-Jul-2014 07:57
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sbiddle:
davidcole: I wonder why both Vodafone and Sky only do HDMI off their recording decoders.  


T-box has composite output as well.



I meant, if you wanted an HDMI output, you can only use their recorders.  Their plain decoders don't come with HDMI.




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  Reply # 1089723 16-Jul-2014 08:42
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davidcole:
sbiddle:
davidcole: I wonder why both Vodafone and Sky only do HDMI off their recording decoders.  


T-box has composite output as well.



I meant, if you wanted an HDMI output, you can only use their recorders.  Their plain decoders don't come with HDMI.


Supply and demand I expect.  Probably not enough customers want HDMI out without recording capability, so it's not worth it for providers to develop and support a product like that.




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  Reply # 1089734 16-Jul-2014 09:01
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floydbloke:
davidcole:
sbiddle:
davidcole: I wonder why both Vodafone and Sky only do HDMI off their recording decoders.  


T-box has composite output as well.



I meant, if you wanted an HDMI output, you can only use their recorders.  Their plain decoders don't come with HDMI.


Supply and demand I expect.  Probably not enough customers want HDMI out without recording capability, so it's not worth it for providers to develop and support a product like that.

I'd say you are right, however, most new TVs now only have one Composite/Component input (usually a shared input), so it will get to the point that if someone just wants vanilla Sky (no MySky) and they already have a DVD player or any other device (Wii for example) connected to their TV, to get Sky they will need to unplug that device.

About time Sky sourced a decoder with an HDMI output.

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  Reply # 1089757 16-Jul-2014 09:32
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trig42:
floydbloke:
davidcole:
sbiddle:
davidcole: I wonder why both Vodafone and Sky only do HDMI off their recording decoders.  


T-box has composite output as well.



I meant, if you wanted an HDMI output, you can only use their recorders.  Their plain decoders don't come with HDMI.


Supply and demand I expect.  Probably not enough customers want HDMI out without recording capability, so it's not worth it for providers to develop and support a product like that.

I'd say you are right, however, most new TVs now only have one Composite/Component input (usually a shared input), so it will get to the point that if someone just wants vanilla Sky (no MySky) and they already have a DVD player or any other device (Wii for example) connected to their TV, to get Sky they will need to unplug that device.

About time Sky sourced a decoder with an HDMI output.


The majority of Sky signups are MySky these days and I was told a while ago they actually haven't purchased any new boxes now for quite some time (any new non MySky installs are mostly just refurbs). With this in mind it'd be pretty hard to justify a business case to go down the whole path of introducing and certifying a hew hardware variant.

It really surprises my Sky actually still offer non MySky signups - it's probably only because they still have a pool of existing boxes there.


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  Reply # 1089771 16-Jul-2014 09:56
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sbiddle:
trig42:
floydbloke:
davidcole:
sbiddle:
davidcole: I wonder why both Vodafone and Sky only do HDMI off their recording decoders.  


T-box has composite output as well.



I meant, if you wanted an HDMI output, you can only use their recorders.  Their plain decoders don't come with HDMI.


Supply and demand I expect.  Probably not enough customers want HDMI out without recording capability, so it's not worth it for providers to develop and support a product like that.

I'd say you are right, however, most new TVs now only have one Composite/Component input (usually a shared input), so it will get to the point that if someone just wants vanilla Sky (no MySky) and they already have a DVD player or any other device (Wii for example) connected to their TV, to get Sky they will need to unplug that device.

About time Sky sourced a decoder with an HDMI output.


The majority of Sky signups are MySky these days and I was told a while ago they actually haven't purchased any new boxes now for quite some time (any new non MySky installs are mostly just refurbs). With this in mind it'd be pretty hard to justify a business case to go down the whole path of introducing and certifying a hew hardware variant.

It really surprises my Sky actually still offer non MySky signups - it's probably only because they still have a pool of existing boxes there.


True, they are also using refurb/return of the original MySky (not the HD one, but the silver one).
Friend of mine got a basic Sky Install, they gave him a silver MySky (he isn't paying for MySky).

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  Reply # 1089784 16-Jul-2014 10:05
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Just confirm that the TV can record from an external input to the usb stick and not just from the inbuilt tuner.

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