Traffic Management on Cable

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Yabanize

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#154223 21-Oct-2014 17:12

hi, Is traffic management being used at the moment on cable?
Has it ever been used?

Just wondering because torrents im doing ATM (with a good amount of seeds) are downloading VERY slow (under 1 kB/s most of the time)

NikT said there isnt really anything to worry about with traffic management on cable

EDIT:

After posting this, I rebooted the router and modem and torrent client and its going better now :)

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Ultimate Geek

#1163316 28-Oct-2014 09:24

Very late response for this post but AFAIK traffic management "may be" used on P2P traffic if you are on an unlimited plan. If you aren't, then no traffic management should be in effect.

johnr

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#1163317 28-Oct-2014 09:27

As above P2P traffic peak time

gbwelly

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#1163505 28-Oct-2014 12:54

johnr: As above P2P traffic peak time

Well thats disappointing. When I tried to upgrade to the 500GB plan I was forced onto unlimited with an assurance to the effect of "As long as you don't stick out like the dogs wotsits we wont do traffic shaping on you"

mattbush

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#1163606 28-Oct-2014 14:53

VF is all smoke and mirrors

NonprayingMantis

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#1163608 28-Oct-2014 15:01

r2b2: Very late response for this post but AFAIK traffic management "may be" used on P2P traffic if you are on an unlimited plan. If you aren't, then no traffic management should be in effect.

not according to previous posts
.
Traffic management applies to all plans equally, and it's the same system they used before unlimited launched.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=143910&page_no=3
and
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=143910&page_no=4

r2b2

586 posts

Ultimate Geek

#1163616 28-Oct-2014 15:11

NonprayingMantis:
r2b2: Very late response for this post but AFAIK traffic management "may be" used on P2P traffic if you are on an unlimited plan. If you aren't, then no traffic management should be in effect.

not according to previous posts
.
Traffic management applies to all plans equally, and it's the same system they used before unlimited launched.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=143910&page_no=3
and
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=143910&page_no=4

Can't see anything obvious in those two links apart from the old 500Gb (which is now unlimited) had the traffic management whereas others didn't. There is no traffic management in place for non unlimited plans. For instance see http://www.vodafone.co.nz/cms/documents/cable-naked-offer-summary.pdf Traffic Management section.

NonprayingMantis

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#1163624 28-Oct-2014 15:16

r2b2:
NonprayingMantis:
r2b2: Very late response for this post but AFAIK traffic management "may be" used on P2P traffic if you are on an unlimited plan. If you aren't, then no traffic management should be in effect.

not according to previous posts
.
Traffic management applies to all plans equally, and it's the same system they used before unlimited launched.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=143910&page_no=3
and
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=143910&page_no=4

Can't see anything obvious in those two links apart from the old 500Gb (which is now unlimited) had the traffic management whereas others didn't. There is no traffic management in place for non unlimited plans. For instance see http://www.vodafone.co.nz/cms/documents/cable-naked-offer-summary.pdf Traffic Management section.

Fair enough, they must have changed it then. Back then, they said that traffic management applied equally to all plans, not differentiated by unlimited vs not. Must have changed since then.

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Ragnor

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#1163710 28-Oct-2014 16:33

Yabanize:

EDIT: After posting this, I rebooted the router and modem and torrent client and its going better now :)

Sounds like it was choking on the number of connections, what router is it?

johnr

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#1163793 28-Oct-2014 17:17

This is why front line staff always ask have you rebooted the router

Yabanize

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#1163829 28-Oct-2014 17:54

Ragnor:
Yabanize:

EDIT: After posting this, I rebooted the router and modem and torrent client and its going better now :)

Sounds like it was choking on the number of connections, what router is it?

Netcomm n300/nf5

vodafone supplied one

johnr

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#1163830 28-Oct-2014 18:02

We also have planned work upgrading the HFC network going on right now this is due to completed first half of November

Yabanize

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#1163832 28-Oct-2014 18:05

johnr: We also have planned work upgrading the HFC network going on right now this is due to completed first half of November

Ive heard that, sounds awesome :) Are you allowed to say what kind of improvements we should see

And what I would like to know has traffic management actually been used? Or is it just there for legal reasons, just in case it has to be used. Big Pipe has in their terms that they may do it (or something like that) but on here they've said their lawyers made them do it and they probably wont ever, but is that the same for vodafone or has it actually been happening

Coil

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#1163837 28-Oct-2014 18:11

Cable.

They use Juniper routers, That cant shape or manage traffic like the huawei ones Vodafone use.
There is no separate pool for people on capped and unlimited plans.
Peak time it usually drops by 30% from peak performance.

Blah.

* Accurate info from like 2 months ago.

johnr

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#1163838 28-Oct-2014 18:12

Yabanize:
johnr: We also have planned work upgrading the HFC network going on right now this is due to completed first half of November

Ive heard that, sounds awesome :) Are you allowed to say what kind of improvements we should see

And what I would like to know has traffic management actually been used? Or is it just there for legal reasons, just in case it has to be used. Big Pipe has in their terms that they may do it (or something like that) but on here they've said their lawyers made them do it and they probably wont ever, but is that the same for vodafone or has it actually been happening

Support faster speed down link 200Mbp/s and much better capacity peak time,

Yabanize

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#1163840 28-Oct-2014 18:14

johnr:
Yabanize:
johnr: We also have planned work upgrading the HFC network going on right now this is due to completed first half of November

Ive heard that, sounds awesome :) Are you allowed to say what kind of improvements we should see

And what I would like to know has traffic management actually been used? Or is it just there for legal reasons, just in case it has to be used. Big Pipe has in their terms that they may do it (or something like that) but on here they've said their lawyers made them do it and they probably wont ever, but is that the same for vodafone or has it actually been happening

Support faster speed down link 200Mbp/s and much better capacity peak time,

Sounds great :)

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