[TelstraClear] paradise SMTP account can be used by everyone!!!!

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#16660 22-Oct-2007 13:15

hi,
anyone know the smtp setting for paradise??? is it smtp.paradise.net.nz ???

i wanted to use my paradise account in my avira email client (where i send suspicious codes to avira)

it should be very simple but i dont know why it is always failed. to those who use avira will know this. there are only 4 boxes for me to fill up.

Email Messages:
1.SMTP server: smtp.paradise.net.nz
2.Sender address: *******@paradise.net.nz

Authenticate:
3.username: *********
4.password: *********

i click on use authentication etc and put proper password. but the heck, the test email is not working!!!

***EDIT***
i figure out that this can be fixed by UNtick the authenticate box??

?? basically paradise dont need authentication here??? i dont know about this since i only use my yahoo mail account for smtp and i need to click the authenticate box.

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#91915 22-Oct-2007 14:03

It is unusual for an ISP to require (or indeed accept) authenticated SMTP connections from clients coming from their own network.

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#91930 22-Oct-2007 17:52

tonyhughes: It is unusual for an ISP to require (or indeed accept) authenticated SMTP connections from clients coming from their own network.

really??? i used my vodafone hsdpa connection and without authentication i can send email using the same smtp (from avira & thunderbird). this is very funny!!! i can use everyone email address with *****@paradise.net.nz to send email without authentication!!! ROFL

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#91933 22-Oct-2007 18:05

nakedmolerat: really???

In my experience, yes!!!

im using vodafone hsdpa tho when i tried yesterday. not my cable connection.

So it worked unauthenticated from your Vodafone connection?

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#91936 22-Oct-2007 18:15

tonyhughes:
nakedmolerat: really???

In my experience, yes!!!

im using vodafone hsdpa tho when i tried yesterday. not my cable connection.

So it worked unauthenticated from your Vodafone connection?

YES SIR! i use my friend ******@paradise.net.nz and send email through his smtp. it works perfect! dont need authentication at all!! and yes im using my vodafone hsdpa connection to do that. it is perfect! hahaahaa... maybe i should borrow friend's ev-do card and see from telecom network. this is funny. can launch massive spam attack to the world using paradise account. hahahaha

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#91937 22-Oct-2007 18:21

nakedmolerat: can launch massive spam attack to the world using paradise account. hahahaha

Now that would be pointless and plain silly.

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#91938 22-Oct-2007 18:32

nakedmolerat:
tonyhughes:
nakedmolerat: im using vodafone hsdpa tho when i tried yesterday. not my cable connection.

So it worked unauthenticated from your Vodafone connection?

YES SIR! i use my friend ******@paradise.net.nz and send email through his smtp. it works perfect! dont need authentication at all!! and yes im using my vodafone hsdpa connection to do that. it is perfect! hahaahaa... maybe i should borrow friend's ev-do card and see from telecom network. this is funny. can launch massive spam attack to the world using paradise account. hahahaha

This was always the case. smtp.vodafone.net.nz always redirected to smtp.paradise.net.nz before - perhaps they still do even though they have their own ISP now...

Paradise won't accept smtp connections from other networks though.

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#91939 22-Oct-2007 18:33

nakedmolerat:
YES SIR! i use my friend ******@paradise.net.nz and send email through his smtp. it works perfect! dont need authentication at all!! and yes im using my vodafone hsdpa connection to do that. it is perfect! hahaahaa... maybe i should borrow friend's ev-do card and see from telecom network. this is funny. can launch massive spam attack to the world using paradise account. hahahaha

Such idoicy can easily be tracked back to you. Thank email headers.

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#91943 22-Oct-2007 19:04

cokemaster:
nakedmolerat:
YES SIR! i use my friend ******@paradise.net.nz and send email through his smtp. it works perfect! dont need authentication at all!! and yes im using my vodafone hsdpa connection to do that. it is perfect! hahaahaa... maybe i should borrow friend's ev-do card and see from telecom network. this is funny. can launch massive spam attack to the world using paradise account. hahahaha

Such idoicy can easily be tracked back to you. Thank email headers.

errr... what 'EMAIL headers' u talk about here??? well, we all should ask paradise what is going on here. if moderator found this should NOT be here, please feel free to delete this thread. i change the topic so that everyone take note of this.

obviously if i want to this myseld "can launch massive spam attack to the world using paradise account. hahahaha", i would have not put it here. wanted everyone to know the vulnerability issue here.

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#91944 22-Oct-2007 19:09

There's no "vulnerability" here. As I post before, smtp.paradise.net.nz is accessible from the Vodafone mobile network because smtp.vodafone.net.nz used to point to the same server as smtp.paradise.net.nz

You can not access smtp.paradise.net.nz from other network that is not Paradise, Clear or Vodafone.

I am locking this discussion because there's no reason to discuss something that doesn't exist. I have just tested it again on a Telecom Mobile Broadband connection just to prove you wrong - and guess what? It won't connect to the server.