New Thread Old Issue. Vodafone routing through the USA to Austrailian Servers.

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WongWeiM8

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#171047 2-Apr-2015 23:16

I play a lot of Battlefield 4, I am unashamedly a gamer from head to toe,
Tonight I was getting a ping from my clan server of approximately 190 to 210 which is extremely odd but not unheard of when using Australian servers but typically only present when an Australian Clan/server owner uses an American host that re-routes everything back to Austrailia.
I normally get a ping of around 49-51 on servers in NSW & sometimes up to 80-100 in WA.
I ran a tracert tonight & discovered I was being routed through America & Germany.
Any gamer playing a data heavy game like BF4 knows that a lot can happen in the time it takes a signal to travel that far

Here it is for reference:

Tracing route to 103.231.88.225 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms 192.168.0.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 10 ms 26 ms 19 ms 218.101.61.101
4 30 ms 27 ms 27 ms ie2-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net [203.98.50.2]
5 46 ms 27 ms 31 ms ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net [203.98. 50.251]
6 34 ms 27 ms 33 ms 134.159.174.41
7 165 ms 183 ms 155 ms i-0-6-1-0.tlot-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net [202. 84.142.157]
8 153 ms 153 ms 155 ms i-0-4-0-6.tlot02.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.40.14 9.182]
9 154 ms 155 ms 155 ms gtt-peer.tlot02.pr.telstraglobal.net [134.159.61 .98]
10 150 ms 155 ms 167 ms giglinx-gw.ip4.gtt.net [199.229.229.18] _______________________ Germany Frankfurt Am Main Tinet Gmbh ???
11 186 ms 187 ms 187 ms 208.64.123.97 ___________________________United States Wilmington Black Lotus Communications
12 190 ms 199 ms 187 ms po112.2905.bdr-1-3-new.sau.net.au [221.121.137.1 5]
13 190 ms 187 ms 187 ms 221.121.141.7
14 190 ms 199 ms 199 ms 103.231.88.225 Trace complete.

Needless to say I'm pretty annoyed, I was incidentally doing a quality test from my IP address yesterday & noticed a lot of packet loss between here & the states, sometimes up to 100%.

I've noticed in an earlier post (that went way off topic) this has happened before & "johnr" was kind enough to poke the relevant people.

Would that be possible again, or could someone point me in the right direction as I don't really want to spend hours on the telephone to Vodafone & still have no answer or resolution.

Cheers.

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#1276512 2-Apr-2015 23:27

just to point out, with those "pings" your not routing via germany.

Dolts

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#1276519 2-Apr-2015 23:37

Is this another cable issue?

Seems like if you enjoy games, don't go with cable :/

WongWeiM8

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#1276534 3-Apr-2015 00:47

l43a2: just to point out, with those "pings" your not routing via germany.

Yep I must have mistyped the IP into the whois, the pings for Germany are around 290-320.
Cheers.

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#1276536 3-Apr-2015 00:48

Dolts: Is this another cable issue?

Seems like if you enjoy games, don't go with cable :/

I don't have much choice where I am, its that or ADSL.

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#1276538 3-Apr-2015 00:50

ADSL is fine for gaming if you get interleaving off. You are not sending much with games.

Just dont have anything else running that uses internet at the same time.

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#1276543 3-Apr-2015 00:55

Thanks, that's something to think about.

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#1276544 3-Apr-2015 00:56

You could alwasy get adsl on with a no contract ISP like bigpipe and see how it goes for you.

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#1276555 3-Apr-2015 04:00

DM me next week and remind me about this thread and we can check it out back in work Tuesday

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#1276645 3-Apr-2015 10:39

Dolts: Is this another cable issue?

Seems like if you enjoy games, don't go with cable :/

or dont go with Vodafone!!

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#1276654 3-Apr-2015 11:05

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tracert to the same IP address - from Wellington, TC HSC :

Tracing route to 103.231.88.225 over a maximum of 30 hops

1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
3     9 ms    10 ms     9 ms lo0.internet.ivpn.pe25.telstraclear.net [218.101.61.124]
4    19 ms    18 ms    18 ms ie2-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net [203.98.50.2]
5    19 ms    25 ms    19 ms ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net [203.98.50.251]
6    21 ms    21 ms    21 ms 134.159.174.41
7   145 ms   147 ms   148 ms 202.84.142.110
8   145 ms   145 ms   145 ms 202.84.251.242
9   143 ms   143 ms   145 ms gtt-peer.tlot02.pr.telstraglobal.net [134.159.61.98]
10   143 ms   144 ms   145 ms giglinx-gw.ip4.gtt.net [199.229.229.18]
11   180 ms   180 ms   179 ms 208.64.123.97
12   178 ms   177 ms   179 ms po112.2905.bdr-1-3-new.sau.net.au [221.121.137.15]
13   177 ms   201 ms   189 ms 221.121.141.7
14   181 ms   181 ms   183 ms 103.231.88.225

Trace complete.

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#1276673 3-Apr-2015 11:59

mattbush: or dont go with Vodafone!!

I am on Voda UFB, and their service is great for me.

Cable seems a tad rubbish for gamers though with congestion at peak hours and all?

Voda UFB:

tracert 103.231.88.225

Tracing route to 103.231.88.225 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms 121-75-203-254.dyn.vf.net.nz [121.75.203.254]
3 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms be7-188.ppnzftc02.akl.vf.net.nz.180.109.203.in-addr.arpa [203.109.180.226]
4 6 ms 7 ms 9 ms be8-188.ppnzftc02.akl.vf.net.nz.180.109.203.in-addr.arpa [203.109.180.225]
5 32 ms 31 ms 33 ms 10.123.80.58
6 30 ms 31 ms 32 ms as4826.nsw.ix.asn.au [218.100.52.6]
7 32 ms 31 ms 31 ms ten-0-2-1-6.cor03.syd03.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.192.52]
8 30 ms 31 ms 31 ms bundle-100.bdr04.syd03.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.192.45]
9 29 ms 31 ms 31 ms po111.2805.bdr-1-2-new.sau.net.au [203.26.197.34]
10 29 ms 31 ms 31 ms vl2901.sw-1-1-new.sau.net.au [221.121.137.2]
11 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms po112.2905.bdr-1-3-new.sau.net.au [221.121.137.15]
12 29 ms 31 ms 31 ms 221.121.141.7
13 33 ms 31 ms 32 ms 103.231.88.225

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#1276730 3-Apr-2015 14:13

Dolts:
mattbush: or dont go with Vodafone!!

I am on Voda UFB, and their service is great for me.

Cable seems a tad rubbish for gamers though with congestion at peak hours and all?

Voda UFB:

tracert 103.231.88.225

Tracing route to 103.231.88.225 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms 121-75-203-254.dyn.vf.net.nz [121.75.203.254]
3 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms be7-188.ppnzftc02.akl.vf.net.nz.180.109.203.in-addr.arpa [203.109.180.226]
4 6 ms 7 ms 9 ms be8-188.ppnzftc02.akl.vf.net.nz.180.109.203.in-addr.arpa [203.109.180.225]
5 32 ms 31 ms 33 ms 10.123.80.58
6 30 ms 31 ms 32 ms as4826.nsw.ix.asn.au [218.100.52.6]
7 32 ms 31 ms 31 ms ten-0-2-1-6.cor03.syd03.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.192.52]
8 30 ms 31 ms 31 ms bundle-100.bdr04.syd03.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.192.45]
9 29 ms 31 ms 31 ms po111.2805.bdr-1-2-new.sau.net.au [203.26.197.34]
10 29 ms 31 ms 31 ms vl2901.sw-1-1-new.sau.net.au [221.121.137.2]
11 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms po112.2905.bdr-1-3-new.sau.net.au [221.121.137.15]
12 29 ms 31 ms 31 ms 221.121.141.7
13 33 ms 31 ms 32 ms 103.231.88.225

I'm sure that routing all cable traffic through Reach rather than Vocus might play a small role too. Remember, Reach are solely interested in money - and if changing routes on the fly means more $$$, too bad ISP customers. They dont have to tell you, they just do it.

Screwing up your games. Think the policy is FY.

Cable is horribly congested, but I expect thats because the ground has been laid for all customers to move to Chorus UFB when available.

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#1277132 4-Apr-2015 14:20

same issue with Christchurch cable 100/10

tracert 103.231.88.225

Tracing route to 103.231.88.225 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms efw-1176509153.localdomain [192.168.1.15]
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms NAS [192.168.20.1]
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 10 ms 8 ms 9 ms 218.101.61.101
5 24 ms 33 ms 22 ms ie2-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net [203.98.50.2]
6 25 ms 29 ms 22 ms ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net [203.98.
50.251]
7 27 ms 25 ms 34 ms unknown.telstraglobal.net [134.159.174.37]
8 148 ms 148 ms 151 ms i-0-6-4-0.tlot-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net [202.
84.142.110]
9 146 ms 149 ms 161 ms i-0-4-0-7.tlot02.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.40.14
9.186]
10 147 ms 147 ms 147 ms gtt-peer.tlot02.pr.telstraglobal.net [134.159.61
.98]
11 148 ms 151 ms 150 ms giglinx-gw.ip4.gtt.net [199.229.229.10]
12 148 ms 148 ms 149 ms 192.184.12.13
13 182 ms 181 ms 183 ms 208.64.123.97
14 181 ms 199 ms 182 ms po112.2905.bdr-1-3-new.sau.net.au [221.121.137.1
5]
15 183 ms 192 ms 183 ms 221.121.141.7
16 186 ms 186 ms 185 ms 103.231.88.225

Trace complete.

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#1277200 4-Apr-2015 18:30

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=165827

its a continuation of this thread by the looks of it

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#1278159 7-Apr-2015 09:16

Jase2985: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=165827

its a continuation of this thread by the looks of it

Yeah it kinda is (as I stated in my first post). The problem with older threads like that one is that it often goes so far off topic that no-one is going to notice if someone posts something new in it.

I'm not sure if Vodafone or any ISP could offer a gamer a more practical service for gamers, or if there would be enough of us to make something like that viable, so I'm assuming it's not.

Maybe waiting for Chorus to put everything in place is the only "real" solution.

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