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Forums › Vodafone New Zealand › [WXC/VFX] Got a question about Xnet/VFX/NAked Dsl


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Topic # 17309 20-Nov-2007 16:12
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Hi There


I was wondering if Naked DSl is released yet for new connections people?

I live in a hostel and I am planning to change to a different room at the same hostel.The room is about 10 metres away from the room Im currently in

I will need to call xnet so that they can switch me over to the other room and I suppose they cannot do that unless I reconnect my telecom line to the other side

Is it possible for me to disconnect my currently landline and change to the other room without having a telecom line?

I just want broadband with xnet  + VFX

Thanks

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  Reply # 96106 20-Nov-2007 18:07
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iirc the naked dsl stuff is due out on the 24th of November (?)

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  Reply # 96139 20-Nov-2007 20:58
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itey, how did you get the date of 24th Nov?

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 96145 20-Nov-2007 21:41
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Don't know about the 24th, but some time ago Telecom announced (in the newspaper) that they will be trialling new customers and then mid December open it up for everyone.  Isn't the 24th about announcing the pricing?




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Master Geek


  Reply # 97734 30-Nov-2007 22:21
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Slingshot, Kiwilink and Orcon are already selling Naked DSL, when is everyione else doing it ?
and why is it more expensive than Normal plans with a landline, that sucks, pay more get less data :(

Have a landline and Broadband same price (for BB) more data

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  Reply # 97851 1-Dec-2007 23:38
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starspangle: Slingshot, Kiwilink and Orcon are already selling Naked DSL, when is everyione else doing it ?
and why is it more expensive than Normal plans with a landline, that sucks, pay more get less data :(


As far as I can see there is northing on Orcon's website about them selling Naked ADSL, all I have been able to find out is that they are testing out things.

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  Reply # 97868 2-Dec-2007 08:16
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starspangle: Slingshot, Kiwilink and Orcon are already selling Naked DSL, when is everyione else doing it ?
and why is it more expensive than Normal plans with a landline, that sucks, pay more get less data :(

Have a landline and Broadband same price (for BB) more data


As telecom still own the copper lines that go from the exchange to your house the other isps are still charged accordingly to use them. A lot of people have fallen into the idea that once they get naked bitstream they will be saving $43 odd a month because they dont have a phone line anymore but this is not the case. In saying that though there is still savings to be made. With naked bitstream and VFX from xnet I am still looking at saving about $20 a month which to me will be quite substantial.

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  Reply # 97876 2-Dec-2007 09:57
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How do you figure that you'll only save about $20 per month ?
Your telecome phone lne is $41.00 per month and if you have xNets VoIP (VFX) then you are saving another $10 per month as VFX is free rental for xNewt customers so far that a saving of $51 per month.
The only downfall to Naked DSL is that it's no good for youi if you have things that depend on the physcial phone connection like B2B alam, Sky TV, fax machine, Eftops machine, whith Naked DSL theses will no longer work.

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  Reply # 97880 2-Dec-2007 10:08
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starspangle: How do you figure that you'll only save about $20 per month ?
Your telecome phone lne is $41.00 per month and if you have xNets VoIP (VFX) then you are saving another $10 per month as VFX is free rental for xNewt customers so far that a saving of $51 per month.
The only downfall to Naked DSL is that it's no good for youi if you have things that depend on the physcial phone connection like B2B alam, Sky TV, fax machine, Eftops machine, whith Naked DSL theses will no longer work.



Actaully your not quite correct here, National Fax and Eftpos work fine (In fact International will be looking alot better as well),  we also have an EFTPOS terminal company that installs VFX for customers so EFTPOS is not really a problem ,   Alarms and Modems connections can be an issue due to the different nature of modems, but we are working to improve that.




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  Reply # 97889 2-Dec-2007 13:48
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starspangle: How do you figure that you'll only save about $20 per month ?
Your telecome phone lne is $41.00 per month and if you have xNets VoIP (VFX) then you are saving another $10 per month as VFX is free rental for xNewt customers so far that a saving of $51 per month.
The only downfall to Naked DSL is that it's no good for youi if you have things that depend on the physcial phone connection like B2B alam, Sky TV, fax machine, Eftops machine, whith Naked DSL theses will no longer work.


Well at the moment I am paying up to $79.95 a month as I have a 30 Gb cap and xnet only charge you for what you use up to that amount. Then I pay $41 a month for a landline. So if you take the POTS phone out Maverick in another thread said that they will have bundled voip and broadband plans starting at $69.95. Now assuming that because I am only 800m away from our exchange that plan might be all I need for broadband and phone services and the data usage price stays the same at about $30 for 30GB then you add up $79.95 + $41.00 = $120.95 which is what I am paying now depending on how much data I use each month. Whereas on the other hand I have naked bitstream and VFX I am looking at $69.95 + $30.00 = $99.95. A saving of $21.00. As I said before I am only assuming this is how it will work but wont know until Xnet bring out their plans for the service which wont be too far away. Phil you may like to point out if I am on the right track or notLaughing

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  Reply # 97950 2-Dec-2007 22:27
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Can I just suggest to the powers that be, that JUST before you bring out the Naked DSL Plans, please bear this following point in mind:

Note:  "There are people like me, who are cheap-skate, and using a FS/128kbps connection.  Or, using a 2Mbps/128kbps connection (on other ISPs), which might be quite sufficient, especially the downstream part.  Hence, it might be good, to remember these customers as well, and not introduce FS/FS plans only, otherwise, the "what? no discount at all" disincentive might not entice users to jump across to Naked DSL!

Thanks!

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  Reply # 97953 2-Dec-2007 22:37
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Yeah thats fine but remember 98% of compnay's who use EFTOPS are running on Telecom's network who can't run it on naked DSL

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  Reply # 97954 2-Dec-2007 22:44
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jesseycy: Can I just suggest to the powers that be, that JUST before you bring out the Naked DSL Plans, please bear this following point in mind:

Note: "There are people like me, who are cheap-skate, and using a FS/128kbps connection. Or, using a 2Mbps/128kbps connection (on other ISPs), which might be quite sufficient, especially the downstream part. Hence, it might be good, to remember these customers as well, and not introduce FS/FS plans only, otherwise, the "what? no discount at all" disincentive might not entice users to jump across to Naked DSL!

Thanks!


I think you may find that you will be able to stay on the plan you are on now Jessey but as far as I understand if you move onto naked dsl it is FS/FS at this stage.

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  Reply # 97955 2-Dec-2007 22:49
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starspangle: Yeah thats fine but remember 98% of compnay's who use EFTOPS are running on Telecom's network who can't run it on naked DSL

Well obviously you didn't read what Maverick posted above:

Maverick: Actaully your not quite correct here, National Fax and Eftpos work fine (In fact International will be looking alot better as well),  we also have an EFTPOS terminal company that installs VFX for customers so EFTPOS is not really a problem ,   Alarms and Modems connections can be an issue due to the different nature of modems, but we are working to improve that.


WxC have trial customers already up and running on Naked Bitstream (aka Naked DSL) so quite clearly there are no issues in running EFTPOS over Naked DSL Cool

starspangle: The only downfall to Naked DSL is that it's no good for youi if you have things that depend on the physcial phone connection like B2B alam, Sky TV, fax machine, Eftops machine, whith Naked DSL theses will no longer work.

Further to the above, I can tell you from my own experience that Sky TV -- in my case a MySky decoder -- DOES WORK perfectly well over Naked DSL Tongue out

I am also sending National Faxes several times per week without any problems Smile

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  Reply # 97991 3-Dec-2007 09:51
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Well that is a totally different thing, thats a Sky set top box which dosent use the phone line to start with, where as the normal sky digital decoder according to Sky TV needs the physcial phone line connected to receive the signal, but not sure hw true that is either considering Telecom disconnected my phone line for about 3 days while upgrading my exchange and I was still able to get Sky Digital whith out a physcial dial tone.
So it should be able to be done :)

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  Reply # 97997 3-Dec-2007 10:32
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starspangle: Well that is a totally different thing, thats a Sky set top box which dosent use the phone line to start with, where as the normal sky digital decoder according to Sky TV needs the physcial phone line connected to receive the signal...

To set the record straight here:

1)  Both MySky and the older Sky Decoders use the phone line in a similar manner -- to book PPV movies
2)  They both have an analogue modem inside
3)  MySky also uses the modem for an installation test but I'm not sure about the older decoders
4)  MySky "phones home" periodically to Sky TV but I'm not sure exactly what data is sent
5)  Both MySky and the older decoders will continue to receive Sky Digital without any phone line at all Tongue out

Oops, we are getting OT here, this was meant to be about Naked DSL/VFX Embarassed

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