Vodafone throttling torrents 100/20 Fibre getting 100-150KB?!

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dvkwong

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# 180993 28-Sep-2015 21:45

Vodafone throttling torrents 100/20 Fibre getting 100-150KB 1% of possible connection speed.

I understand Vodafone is throttling connections but this is ridicules surely? Seems to be a fixed amount no dynamic shaping based on actual load on system.

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# 1396160 28-Sep-2015 22:03

It's only peak time traffic management off peak should be much faster if not then it's not related to traffic management but something else

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# 1396205 28-Sep-2015 23:08

More information is required - namely if you're using Vodafones DNS servers + if you're on WiFi.

If you're using Ethernet, have done standard troubleshooting (rebooted everything including ONT) and still get this on well-seeded Linux ISO's then this is pretty bad.

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# 1396220 28-Sep-2015 23:54

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Vodafones traffic-shaping is horrible to put it simply.

There is shaping, then there is what Vodafone do.

There seems to be some sort of toggle point for where it goes from what i would say as an acceptable amount of shaping to insane.

Personally, i often pull over a vpn or http ftp etc depending on if my linux isos are available on other machines....

Other uses in the house quite often sit on absurdly high connection counts, because their logic is add more seeds, more seeds make it faster. - Somewhat accurate since ive seen it as bad as 1.5KB/s per connection outside of aus...

Stick to popular distros that have peers within nz and you should pop far bigger numbers however... be it with the tradeoffs.

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# 1396269 29-Sep-2015 07:29

Set your client to download the torrents over night if its that bad.

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# 1396280 29-Sep-2015 07:57

I torrent most days of the week during peak.
I get my line speed all day every day. Find well seeded torrents. I doubt they are getting shaped back that far if they are even getting shaped...

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# 1396281 29-Sep-2015 07:59

Apsattv: Set your client to download the torrents over night if its that bad.

I bet he is using the bay and just not getting properly seeded torrents.

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# 1396282 29-Sep-2015 08:03

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I use a seedbox then FTP back to nz.

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# 1396290 29-Sep-2015 08:11

mrtoken: I use a seedbox then FTP back to nz.

Any location apart from Australia its probably dead slow.

Where is your seedbox?

dvkwong

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# 1396295 29-Sep-2015 08:30

I think if I pay for an advertised 100/20 connection I would expect better than 100-150kb during peak.

I was recently with slingshot on 100/20 and during peak I would get 10Mb via torrents.

So I am very disappointed that Vodafone vs slingshot advertised speeds are markedly different.

If Vodafone could adjust the way they do shaping or even up the fixed rate I would be happier but 100kb-150kb is a joke.

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# 1396320 29-Sep-2015 08:55

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I'm on VDSL 40/10 and over past couple of months noticed transfer speed during peak times has bottomed out compared to how it was 6 months ago. I'm ok with it tho, as my PC is on 24/7 anyway, so most things complete overnight.

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# 1396323 29-Sep-2015 08:59

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dvkwong: Vodafone throttling torrents 100/20 Fibre getting 100-150KB 1% of possible connection speed.

I understand Vodafone is throttling connections but this is ridicules surely? Seems to be a fixed amount no dynamic shaping based on actual load on system.

That is so ridiculous that it is probably not the cause. I used to get 5MB/s on my VDSL connection before I moved house.

Please note: I have a professional bias towards Vodafone.

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# 1396366 29-Sep-2015 09:53

dvkwong: I think if I pay for an advertised 100/20 connection I would expect better than 100-150kb during peak.

I was recently with slingshot on 100/20 and during peak I would get 10Mb via torrents.

So I am very disappointed that Vodafone vs slingshot advertised speeds are markedly different.

If Vodafone could adjust the way they do shaping or even up the fixed rate I would be happier but 100kb-150kb is a joke.

read the rest of the posts.

you connection is still 100/20, its just they prioritize other traffic over P2P stuff. so if you want to do P2P and you want it full speed, then you need to do your torrenting outside of peak hours.

its so your downloading doesnt impact people using streaming services

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# 1396375 29-Sep-2015 09:58

dvkwong: I think if I pay for an advertised 100/20 connection I would expect better than 100-150kb during peak.

I was recently with slingshot on 100/20 and during peak I would get 10Mb via torrents.

So I am very disappointed that Vodafone vs slingshot advertised speeds are markedly different.

If Vodafone could adjust the way they do shaping or even up the fixed rate I would be happier but 100kb-150kb is a joke.

Your one aspect of how you perceive your speeds is very flawed. Torrenting is not in any way shape or form a way to gauge "The speed of which you pay for"
You can test your speed with www.speedtest.net and you should see the throughput you get on your connection. Do be aware connecting outside nz will most likely be slower than your line due to limited international bandwidth.

I am adamant that your client isnt configured correctly and or your downloading poorly seeded or well seeded but highly leeched torrents.

Come back to us with a speed test and your client configuration under the connection tab.

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# 1396590 29-Sep-2015 13:30

TimA:
dvkwong: I think if I pay for an advertised 100/20 connection I would expect better than 100-150kb during peak.

I was recently with slingshot on 100/20 and during peak I would get 10Mb via torrents.

So I am very disappointed that Vodafone vs slingshot advertised speeds are markedly different.

If Vodafone could adjust the way they do shaping or even up the fixed rate I would be happier but 100kb-150kb is a joke.

Your one aspect of how you perceive your speeds is very flawed. Torrenting is not in any way shape or form a way to gauge "The speed of which you pay for"
You can test your speed with www.speedtest.net and you should see the throughput you get on your connection. Do be aware connecting outside nz will most likely be slower than your line due to limited international bandwidth.

I am adamant that your client isnt configured correctly and or your downloading poorly seeded or well seeded but highly leeched torrents.

Come back to us with a speed test and your client configuration under the connection tab.

Yeah we torrent heavily in our house and have no major issues like the one OP is complaining of. I'm on VDSL unlimited and get 25/6 - Down/Up in Mbps throughput and via torrents I haven't actually checked the precise downstream speed but a 700mb file would be downloaded in 10-15mins if it has a decent amount of seeders. This happens when 3 other people in the flat download stuff too and also stream content off netflix in their rooms.

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# 1396608 29-Sep-2015 13:41

mrfte:
TimA:
dvkwong: I think if I pay for an advertised 100/20 connection I would expect better than 100-150kb during peak.

I was recently with slingshot on 100/20 and during peak I would get 10Mb via torrents.

So I am very disappointed that Vodafone vs slingshot advertised speeds are markedly different.

If Vodafone could adjust the way they do shaping or even up the fixed rate I would be happier but 100kb-150kb is a joke.

Your one aspect of how you perceive your speeds is very flawed. Torrenting is not in any way shape or form a way to gauge "The speed of which you pay for"
You can test your speed with www.speedtest.net and you should see the throughput you get on your connection. Do be aware connecting outside nz will most likely be slower than your line due to limited international bandwidth.

I am adamant that your client isnt configured correctly and or your downloading poorly seeded or well seeded but highly leeched torrents.

Come back to us with a speed test and your client configuration under the connection tab.

Yeah we torrent heavily in our house and have no major issues like the one OP is complaining of. I'm on VDSL unlimited and get 25/6 - Down/Up in Mbps throughput and via torrents I haven't actually checked the precise downstream speed but a 700mb file would be downloaded in 10-15mins if it has a decent amount of seeders. This happens when 3 other people in the flat download stuff too and also stream content off netflix in their rooms.

In the years of my service at Vodafone i never once found the network to shape any traffic or have a reoccurring throughput issue.
99% of the time it comes down to the source or customer equipment. (WiFi, PC configuration)

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