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# 181082 1-Oct-2015 18:23
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Our EFTPOS supplier just supplied us with a GPRS EFTPOS terminal, but our office has really poor coverage with Vodafone so we have a Sure Signal enterprise on-site so that our mobile phones work in the office.  

Will this EFTPOS terminal be able to connect to the Sure Signal femtocell?  Anyone know?

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  # 1398218 1-Oct-2015 18:27
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try it and see?

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  # 1398229 1-Oct-2015 18:51
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I dont think it will, GPRS is 2G or 2.5G, the sure signal is 3G
Also the EFTPOS machine would have to be using a Vodafone sim card.

Connect the eftpos terminal by Ethernet cable and be done with it. If you need one for with your cafe / restaurant / business ask your provider for a wifi model.




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  # 1398234 1-Oct-2015 19:00
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Sure Signal is 3G 2100Mhz only



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  # 1398390 2-Oct-2015 01:30
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The wifi model's they gave us have horrific wifi compatibility.  They couldn't connect to 3 out of 4 wifi routers I tried to attach it to...simply refused to connect to 2 of them and the 3rd one it connected to, but had constant transmission errors...so their solution was to just gives us a GPRS model.



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  # 1399208 3-Oct-2015 09:01
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Anyone have creative ideas or solutions to improve/boost/redirect GPRS signals?  Our business is located on Waiheke Island and if we stand in certain parts of the building we get enough of a GPRS signal for the EFTPOS terminal to work, but it is just marginal.

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  # 1399211 3-Oct-2015 09:10
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Does the EFTPOS unit have an antenna port? You could then plug in an external antenna.
What about an Ethernet port?




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  # 1399250 3-Oct-2015 11:02
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make sure the WIFI is set to TKIP only.
I have come across this before in a previous role when I moved the company form one ISP to another.
Ethernet is the way to go or as as coffee baron suggests if there is capability for an external antenna on the eftpos machine try that.

if you must us GPRS the only other way to improve signal is by a passive repeater. i.e. a high gain antenna outside pointing to cell tower and either a piece of leaky coax inside or another antenna inside like a car phone antenna. totally passive and may help, will cost a bit of money to do properly. you need good coax, good antennas and good connectors to make it work.




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  # 1399285 3-Oct-2015 11:56
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coffeebaron: Does the EFTPOS unit have an antenna port? You could then plug in an external antenna.
What about an Ethernet port?


Unfortunately it doesn't have an ethernet port and it doesn't seem to offer an external antennae.  I've seen that GPRS femtocells exist, but my guess is there is no such thing here in New Zealand?

Anyone from Vodafone watching this thread able to comment on any possible ideas/solutions to improve GPRS at our site?  Like I said, we get 1-2 bars of coverage if we stand in the right part of the building and it *sometimes* works.  So we are just right on the edge of being able to make this thing work.  If I could somehow figure out a way to bump it up or get a GPRS femtocell I'd be in business (literally).

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  # 1399287 3-Oct-2015 12:10
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Just my 2c but one solution would be going back to the eftpos supplier and swapping the terminal for one that supports 3G 2100Mhz or even better Ethernet
Surely they have to supply you with a solution that works!




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  # 1399502 3-Oct-2015 23:11
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Or change eftpos suppliers to one that can supply terminals with Ethernet.





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Hope they have a plan in place for the end of GPRS if they are supplying terminals that only support that too.




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richms: Hope they have a plan in place for the end of GPRS if they are supplying terminals that only support that too.

I think Vodafone could keep 2G running on their network for another 50 years if they wanted to with little detriment to the rest of the network. Single RAN technology allows 2G to run along side very efficiently.

Vodafone are still deploying 2G with new site builds. I wouldn't expect a shutdown of 2G in the next 10 years at least.




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  # 1399604 4-Oct-2015 10:25
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richms: Hope they have a plan in place for the end of GPRS if they are supplying terminals that only support that too.


GSM will be around for ever. Globally we'll probably see lots of 3G networks shut down well before GSM.



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richms: Hope they have a plan in place for the end of GPRS if they are supplying terminals that only support that too.

GSM will be around for ever. Globally we'll probably see lots of 3G networks shut down well before GSM.

As I understand it, all of the Smart Meters that are being rolled out around NZ rely on GPRS.  There's also a lot of M2M stuff using GPRS.  It would seem worthwhile to keep it operating for many years yet.







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SATTV: make sure the WIFI is set to TKIP only.
I have come across this before in a previous role when I moved the company form one ISP to another.
Ethernet is the way to go or as as coffee baron suggests if there is capability for an external antenna on the eftpos machine try that.

if you must us GPRS the only other way to improve signal is by a passive repeater. i.e. a high gain antenna outside pointing to cell tower and either a piece of leaky coax inside or another antenna inside like a car phone antenna. totally passive and may help, will cost a bit of money to do properly. you need good coax, good antennas and good connectors to make it work.


Good tips and suggestions here.

If I were to try a passive antennae setup, how would I figure out where the tower is so I know how to aim it properly?  Are there special antennas required to pickup the right frequency or will anything work (i.e. like an external 802.11 type of grid,yagi, or TV style aerial?).



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