[WXC/VFX] Qos Question with Tomato

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AmooMan

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# 18688 19-Jan-2008 20:21

Hi all.. i found http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=65&TopicId=12420

But it is older than 30days and been locked so new post time :)

Im also looking for some help setting up my WRT54G running Tomato 1.11 to enable QOS to run.

I also have the PAP2T running VFX

Just like Nety's setup.. but im on wireless internet.

So far..

VFX sounds ok when no one is Downloading with bit torrent.. Yes alittle hollow i guess.. but im fine with that.

2 of my flatmates turn on bit torrent and the VFX like beable alittle jumpy sometimes missing words and jitter.

If anyone is using Tomato out there.. please post some screen shots of their setup :)

Ill be doing more testing tonight and tmw.. and google'n.. 10 minds are better then 1 :) thats why im posting

Cheers :)

sbiddle

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# 105717 19-Jan-2008 21:22

What QoS settings are you using? Do you have the MAC address of your PAP2 set to the highest priority?

AmooMan

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# 105731 19-Jan-2008 22:28

Here are 2 screen shots of what i have done so far.

my PAP2T is on static ip 192.168.0.100 and thats why i have given highest to..

Someone said MAC address's were slower than IP for QOS.. is that right?

I have set up my flatmates to lowest for their ports they use for Bit Torrent.. is that OK??

Any help would be great :)

brianthomas

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# 105733 19-Jan-2008 22:45

Hi There,

I have tomato and even though I have no VOIP yet I been doing a bit of QoS with it. So here are my tips:

1. On the basic settings page, uncheck Prioritize ACK
2. On the classification page add a rule like so:

3. Move this rule to the top of the QoS rules

You are also correct about moving bittorrent to lowest, it should be fine, but rather than using the Port for those just use the MAC address.   I'm not sure what your talking about it being slow.

Lastly, you don't need a VOIP in and VOIP rule not sure what you are trying to do there.    QoS only works properly with outbound traffic because inbound will always come at full rate from your ISP end.

Number 1 on the list (unchecking Prioritize ACK) is very important. Because if that is checked then your downloads will saturate your upload even if they have been set to a lower QoS class.

Hmm, also your Inbound QoS rules look a bit wack! Do you only sync at 800kbit? otherwise why have you set that as your max speed.   Also avoid setting limits for Inbound QoS. like I mentioned this cannot be effectively controlled at your end as data from ISP to your Tomato router will not be throttled.   If you set these limits then your router DROPS the packets above the stated rates which means they are redownloaded causing bandwidth to be wasted.

I would put everything to 100% on Inbound and set the maximum to whatever you sync to or just 8000kbps.

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# 105736 19-Jan-2008 23:02

AmooMan: Here are 2 screen shots of what i have done so far.

my PAP2T is on static ip 192.168.0.100 and thats why i have given highest to..

Someone said MAC address's were slower than IP for QOS.. is that right?

I have set up my flatmates to lowest for their ports they use for Bit Torrent.. is that OK??

I played around with settings like those for several months. Wasn't using Tomato but another router with similar Bandwidth Management and QoS functions.

TBH, it never really worked properly under all conditions. Since getting a WRTP54G, all those problems have gone away as the ATA is built in, and so it automatically receives prioritisation over all other network traffic.

Sorry, I don't have any suggestions which you aren't already using, but I will watch this thread with interest to see if you can resolve your issues...

AmooMan

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# 105737 19-Jan-2008 23:10

brianthomas

Im on 1mb/s Down .. 1mb/s up - Wireless internet..

that is why have set to 800kb/s for now..

Ohh and this little problem isnt packet loss.. have tested that

Ill you ideas.. post back soon

We have had 2 calls of Auz.. and 1 call from auckland in the last few hours..

No complaints from them.. so i must be getting somewhere

remarks

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# 105852 20-Jan-2008 19:52

I use tomato... and I don't use QoS. I've had vfx for about a year now with no probs. The only setting I changed was the Max Connections for the router:

Go to Advanced-> Contrack/Netfilter

http://192.168.1.1/advanced-ctnf.asp

Mine is set to 2048... I can't remember what it is by default but I'm pretty sure that will help out a lot.

I use bittorrent everyday and have never had an issue and I am a heavy user...

Edit: Tomato 1.14 is out

AmooMan

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# 105927 21-Jan-2008 11:28

OK thanks for that remarks..

What kind of connection are you on? DSL who is yr ISP?

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# 106043 21-Jan-2008 23:56

AmooMan: OK thanks for that remarks..

What kind of connection are you on? DSL who is yr ISP?

I'm not in NZ. Using ADSL PPPoE. ADSL ATU-R --> WRT54GL --> PAP2T. I did have vfx quality issues before I changed the max connection limit. Get some torrents going then you can use Tomato to check how many connection are being made.

It is my opinion that limiting with QoS won't help alot with high torrent use if there are too many connections.