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astrae

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#19387 14-Feb-2008 18:17
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Hi

I've noticed that my call quality can be quite bad when downloading from other pcs's.  I just want to confirm a few things that might be effecting this.



1. I am using WAG54GP2 for vfx.  It is pre configured for vfx. Do I have to turn on any QOS settings at all?

2.  I am currently with another ISP. Would you tend to get a better connection to vfx on xnet? Or does QOS work better on xnet?

3. Is a 256k connection a bad idea for VOIP? I will be moving to a full speed plan later this month.



I want to move fusion in a couple of months if things go well. I'm just wondering if these problems are due to my current broadband plan.

Unbiased opinions would be good! Tongue out

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  #110652 14-Feb-2008 18:24
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1. -

2. You would probably get a better VFX experience with Xnet since they can (and do) prioritise the VFX traffic.

3. It depends on the codec you're using, and what else you're doing with the connection.
If it's dedicated to VFX, and you're using the default codec, it should be fine.
If you're constantly downloading, and the QoS isn't working, then it's probably a bad idea.




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  #110653 14-Feb-2008 18:34
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Well I won't be unbiased thats for sure Laughing,

1. Generally yes the Wag should be looking after QOS for packets hitting the Wire, i.e. prioritising voice packets over data getting sent over the ADSL connection, we obviously look after VFX traffc on our own network, other providers do not so they all get mixed together with no priority given to the voice.

2. Yes due to the above reason.

3. General rule....The bigger the pipe the better Laughing


hopefully not to biased for you Undecided




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hpj2007
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#110654 14-Feb-2008 18:37
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Your router can't do downstream QoS because data will always come at whatever speed it can to your router so if other PCs are downloading fast then you are probably saturating your downstream bandwidth.   From what I have read here Xnet apply QoS at their end to ensure that sufficient downstream bandwidth to you is available for a phone call.  This can only happen if they are your ISP obviously.

edit: sorry looks like maverick posted while i was typing too.



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  #110724 14-Feb-2008 22:46
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Others have already covered most of the points, but here is an expanded comment on your Point (2):
astrae: 2.  I am currently with another ISP. Would you tend to get a better connection to vfx on xnet? Or does QOS work better on xnet?

A definite YES on both counts.  I have used VFX on a 512kbps wireless connection via ICONZ, and also via Xnet.

With ICONZ, I experienced bad voice breakup when downloading or uploading e-mail attachments on my PC.  Usually, the breakup was so bad that calls were unintelligible.  For a while I used a router with Bandwidth Management as a sort of band-aid workaround.  But it wasn't ideal because part of my bandwidth was always reserved for VoIP, whether a call was taking place or not.  Bandwidth Management is also not the best solution because it is a form of throttling, and I still noticed short disturbances to phone calls when downloads started.

Now I have Xnet as my ISP for this same connection and am using a WRTP54G (similar to WAG but without the ADSL modem).

With this setup, there is absolutely NO effect on phone calls regardless of what else is happening on my PC.  This includes:

-  Speed Tests
-  FTP Upload / Download
-  Incoming or Outgoing e-mail attachments
-  Watching YouTube videos

In short, the VFX phone service is now totally bullet-proof and it has clearly demonstrated the value of QoS when implemented end-to-end from my ISP and also via a compatible router at my end.

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#111000 16-Feb-2008 18:11
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If you look at my other post I have major problems with QOS.  In fact my phone is unusable unless all computers in my house are turned off.  Even minor internet use, like pulling up this site downs my phone completely.  My WAG54GP2 is not setting aside bandwidth for the phone,
HELP!!!  No help desk on weekends except between 10 and 2 and the I waited nearly an hour to talk to someone who suggested i reboot the modem!
I have VFX Fusion naked DSL so everything is with Xnet.




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  #111019 16-Feb-2008 19:48
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smbunn: If you look at my other post

I have replied in your other post.  Suggest we keep the replies in one thread.




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