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#196716 10-Jun-2016 11:48
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Move to Vodafone from Snap/2degress (as could merge my Sky over as well and save $70 per month). Overall I am really happy but my ipad mini drops the wifi all the time from the other end of the house (ONT is in garage so just put Huawei box there as well).

 

Is anyone using a wifi repeater with the Vodafone USB Huawei box and if so what brand? 


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  #1569453 10-Jun-2016 14:40
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There are literally hundreds of threads on here about WiFi repeaters.

 

My view (that will also be shared by others) is that WiFi repeaters/extenders are a menace to the human race as a whole and should not be considered unless you a) understand why they're so bad, and b) now exactly how to ensure you can limit the performance impact on your network.

 

A standalone access point either connected back via Ethernet cable or Ethernet over Power extenders is always the best option.

 

 


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  #1569457 10-Jun-2016 14:49
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I own 2 full routers (ex fritz one and a tplink) neither have any of us been able to get to work with the Huawei as an access points. I am not interested in paying for another full device then finding it wont work. And yes I searched and there is nothing from anyone about what will work with the Huawei which is why I have asked. If you can advise an access point that will actually work with the Huawei then that would be helpful as Tplink wont (despite it worked fine with the Friz and the Fritz wont as no option to become an accesspoint in the software).

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #1569458 10-Jun-2016 14:51
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Nothing is Huawei specific, any access point on the market will work as it has nothing to do with the router.

 

Any router can also be used as an access point simply by disabling DHCP, plugging into the LAN port and giving it a routable IP on the same subnet if you want to be able to get into it again.

 

 


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  #1569479 10-Jun-2016 15:27
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The fritz does have the ability to do it.

 

 

 

Go into the web interface. You may need advanced view so click View:standard at the bottom if it is there to change to it.

 

choose internet, account information.

 

Set it to other ISP,

 

choose external modem or router,

 

Choose share existing internet connection (IP client mode)

 

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  #1569482 10-Jun-2016 15:34
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I had poor wifi in my garage (phones kept dropping off since access point is in house).  So got one of these, connected via ethernet.

 

 

 

http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?itemID=409336

 

 

 

Works ok.





 

 

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  #1569623 10-Jun-2016 17:42
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Your Sir are a legend. Have a beer on me. All reconfigured (was 192.168.178.1 of course) and can see on Huawei (now as a 192.168.1.x). If all my ipad issues go away you have my HUGE thanks :)

 

Great easy to follow instructions.

 

 

 

richms:

 

The fritz does have the ability to do it.

 

 

 

Go into the web interface. You may need advanced view so click View:standard at the bottom if it is there to change to it.

 

choose internet, account information.

 

Set it to other ISP,

 

choose external modem or router,

 

Choose share existing internet connection (IP client mode)

 

Click to see full size

 


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Quinny:

 

I own 2 full routers (ex fritz one and a tplink) neither have any of us been able to get to work with the Huawei as an access points. I am not interested in paying for another full device then finding it wont work. And yes I searched and there is nothing from anyone about what will work with the Huawei which is why I have asked. If you can advise an access point that will actually work with the Huawei then that would be helpful as Tplink wont (despite it worked fine with the Friz and the Fritz wont as no option to become an accesspoint in the software).

 

 

 

 

See my signature for a guide.

 

The tplink simply needs to have its LAN ip address set to one in the same subnet as the huawei, disable the lan dhcp server, set the same SSID,passkey and security type, and then connect LAN1 on the huawei to LAN1 on the tplink.

 

A common misunderstanding when using a router as a dumbed down access point is that you use the WAN or INTERNET port on the slave router as an uplink to the master router, when actually you should dumb it down so the WAN port is not used at all, and its just using a LAN port.





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Many thanks for taking the time to reply. No idea why the TpLink (which worked fine as an access point behind the Fritz) would not behave for the Huawei. Thanks to Richms we now have the Fritz working great as an access point and zero dropouts since (yippee). I'll run thru the guide you posted - thank goodness not so Blonde that the last bit on the ports applies :). Again huge thanks to both you and Richms for taking the time to try help. So frustrating when you know it will be some small setting. I was down to looking at a repeater or extender as had given up on both the Fritz and Tplink. To have it working and no more money spent is awesome.


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  #1572098 15-Jun-2016 08:41
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It doesnt matter who your broadband supplier is. Repeaters are rubbish because your the wireless signal (which is already crap in the probolem area of your home) is halved when it is re-transmitted. Extending the wireless network is a marginally better option (eg with a spare router you have lying around and connecting via an ethernet cable) but you're left with the problem of trying to get your devices to roam between the access points with the best signal which is going to do your head in. It's more than likley that you will walk in to your house and connect to the first access point your phone sees; and it will hold on to that connection (even when it is a crappy one bar, pausing and buffering like crazy) until it gets down to zero signal and drops the connection before connecting to your second AP which is braodcasting a stronger signal. It's just as frustrating as a single access point with a poor signal than most braodband providers dish out.

 

 

 

A far easier option to get around poo consumer grade wifi is to buy a decent AP such as one from the Ubuquiti range which is particualry well priced. I bought the pro model and get 5 bars of wifi in every room of my 280 sq m house plus the entire back yard. My connection does not drop until I walk past my immediate two neighbours' houses and I get to the houses three away from me! If I had known the signal would be this strong I would have just bought the $170 lite version instead of the $290 pro version. These APs have many advanced features not found in consumer grade wireless routers like no need to create 2 x SSIDs for the 2.4 and 5GHz frequencies like almost every router makes you do and make you choose which SSID your devices connect to. And if you did need two of these APs (extremely large place, concrete bunker, several dwellings etc), then seemless roaming is baked right in to it the firmware/software. This means your devices will seemlessly roam between the APs at the appropriate time, like they do with enterprise grade access points in the workplace. All this for $170 per access point is a bargain and bound to solve your wireless troubles unlike repeaters and extenders.


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  #1572103 15-Jun-2016 08:56
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BrowneAction:

 

 And if you did need two of these APs (extremely large place, concrete bunker, several dwellings etc), then seemless roaming is baked right in to it the firmware/software. This means your devices will seemlessly roam between the APs at the appropriate time, like they do with enterprise grade access points in the workplace. All this for $170 per access point is a bargain and bound to solve your wireless troubles unlike repeaters and extenders.

 

 

UniFi kit does not support roaming.

 

802.11r / 802.11k support is currently in a very early alpha stage. Even when that's in place it requires devices to support 802.11k and 802.11r (most tablets, laptops and phones do not support this) and also ideally needs a 2nd SSID with 802.11r / 802.11k support enabled as many devices that don't support 802.11r and 802.11k will not function correctly on a network with 802.11r and 802.11k enabled.

 

If you can see your AP 3 houses away you should configure it correctly - power levels that high make WiFi performance worse for everybody!

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #1574496 15-Jun-2016 16:01
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I have the pros and need 2 upstairs just to get fill bars on 5ghz over all rooms up there. Walls are just Gib and wood. Only foil is in exterior walls.




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sbiddle:

 

UniFi kit does not support roaming.

 

802.11r / 802.11k support is currently in a very early alpha stage. Even when that's in place it requires devices to support 802.11k and 802.11r (most tablets, laptops and phones do not support this) and also ideally needs a 2nd SSID with 802.11r / 802.11k support enabled as many devices that don't support 802.11r and 802.11k will not function correctly on a network with 802.11r and 802.11k enabled.

 

If you can see your AP 3 houses away you should configure it correctly - power levels that high make WiFi performance worse for everybody!

 

 

 

 

+1 ^^^

 

...and everyone wonders why urban WiFi performance is so poor! cry

 

 

 

 


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  #1574737 15-Jun-2016 22:37
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*discreetly hides the booster and high gain antenna I have on one of my 2.4 AP's*





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sbiddle:

 

Thanks for your reply Mr Knowitall; but you are talking about the zerohand off feature which is supported on the non 802.11 AC APs but still in development for the AC models. If I had meant zero handoff I would have said zero handoff or ZH.

 

 

 

And I'll be sure to tweak some settings once it's been out of the box for more than a week and once the houses around me are built. The point is that this soolves the issue of ISP routers having realtively poo wifi performance

 

 

 

If you dont have anything positive to say then maybe you shouldn't say it at all.


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  #1574807 16-Jun-2016 08:09
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tangerz:

 

 

 

I've done a quick survey of the drainlayers, roofers and tilers building the houses around me and I'm not impacting on their mission critical wireless networks. Never ASSUME, you might make an ass out of you


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