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wharfedale

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#21230 20-Apr-2008 12:04
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I want to re activate a sim1 card...can it be done? here's the story...

2 years ago I did a free upgrade to sim2, keeping my old number (and it turns out my old sim card). I was recently given a new phone, however, it doesn't recognise the new sim2, but works fine with the sim1... problem is vodafone won't reconnect my number to sim1 card stating 'you cannot use a sim card twice'...


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  #125047 20-Apr-2008 12:28
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They are correct the older sim can not be reactivated. You have a new phone that will not work with a sim2. There is more to this! I have used many old handset with new sims and no issues. What is the new handset? What is the error message ?

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  #125049 20-Apr-2008 12:44
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What model is the phone?

Newer SIM cards work on a lower voltage and won't work with some old phones - typically those before around 1999/2000.

Are you sure your SIM isn't dodgy? I would suggest going into a VF store, I do know that if you have a newer phone and older SIM that they will upgrade the SIM for free so they should at least be able to help you..

 
 
 
 


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  #125057 20-Apr-2008 13:23
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Hey all..

thanks for the replies,,,, I just went into the Vodafone store to re-ask; this time the manager was present and was far more helpful!

Turns out, the original sim2 has a voltage of 3.11V which is 0.03V less than sim1.... however, the latest sim2 has a voltage of 3.14V the same as the original sim1 and works fine in the new phone (CECT P168+) so problem solved.



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  #125060 20-Apr-2008 13:31
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So its a phone issue. Any decent handset it should not make a difference!

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  #125076 20-Apr-2008 14:13
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I agree.... but this phone is not just any phone.. its a phone, PDA, mp3/mp4 player, 1.3MP camera, touch screen, health checker, duel sim, sd card reader/portable usb drive..... all in one and all for $200NZ!!

f(rating) = Functionality Vs Price

f(P168+) = Awesome

LOL

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  #125079 20-Apr-2008 14:24
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I had an old sim2 that would frequently come up insert sim on my old t610 and not work at all in a 6110 (the old one, good one nokia for reusing model numbers) - swapping it out cured it. I suspect the older sims were just a little flakey and your phone exposes the problem more then some other handsets. The old one was from the era when they just launched with all the "cool new features" that made me really unexcited to give up 10 sms slots on the sim for a menu of lame services.




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  #125081 20-Apr-2008 14:37
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I agree.. sim2 is just a greedy vodafone money grabbing technique.

 
 
 
 


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  #125085 20-Apr-2008 15:08
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wharfedale: I agree.... but this phone is not just any phone.. its a phone, PDA, mp3/mp4 player, 1.3MP camera, touch screen, health checker, duel sim, sd card reader/portable usb drive..... all in one and all for $200NZ!!

f(rating) = Functionality Vs Price

f(P168+) = Awesome

LOL


Yes but at a price like that I doubt the hardware inside the mobile is decent.

Don't blame vodafone.Blame your handset.Im supporting vodafone at this one.

If you buy any nokia,O2,i-mate these days I can guarantee you that it works with any sim

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  #125086 20-Apr-2008 15:09
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wharfedale: I agree.. sim2 is just a greedy vodafone money grabbing technique.


Sim 2 has more memory than a sim 1 card and doesn't cost more.Its the same price.So how can it be greedy?

You'll find hardly any other places around the world uses sim 1 card.

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  #125088 20-Apr-2008 15:22
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The sims before the vodafone menu was added would hold 30 texts on sim, after, only 20 - it was a big deal for me at the time because I had a handset with no sms storage in it, and had I known I wouldnt have bothered changing.

Its faster to text bal to 777 then to use the menu, and the other options are pointless things. Worst "upgrade" ever IMO.




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  #125174 20-Apr-2008 22:26
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Dear richms

Whether a mobile or any device is deemed decent all depends on personal preference, needs, wants and perception.... This handset does what I want and need for a price I can afford... it is basically the equivalent of an i-phone without the apple tax, and branding.. to me if it works for what I want it's decent...

I don't blame vodafone for the card not working in my phone, I blame vodafone for not enabling sim1 to be reactivated.


I currently have a nokia... so I agree.


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  #125185 21-Apr-2008 01:25
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I saw someone call the sim2 upgrade a waste of money (the joys of browsing via mobile). I disagree.

The main reason is because if you already had the sim card, you could keep it. Upgrading was optional, was it not?

For new users, you didn't need to upgrade because you already got the sim.

I found the location services quite good, used them a few times. While it may potentially be quicker to text 'bal' to 777 for others it just is simplier to navigate through the menus.

Most decent phones and pdas give you the option of storing sms on the phones memory. With my p910 I remember storing hundreds of messages, on my blackberry 8830, it is in the thousands... And still going!




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  #125577 22-Apr-2008 15:17
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I have used one of those P168+ phones and they are awesome...i'm going to get one...and since you can use the latest sim2 cards in them there is no problem with connecting them to the network...all in all it seems like a good idea to me

wharfedale

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  #130095 11-May-2008 22:16
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Yeah well, I've now been using one for about 3 weeks... its so impressive I managed to accidentally convince a total apple fanboy it was as good as an iphone and he went and bought two of his own!!!

LOL, the world of cheap stuff is awesome.

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