[WXC/VFX] hardware questions

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#21982 12-May-2008 19:12

hey all

i'm curently using a d-link dsl g604t wireless adsl2 router. Planning on a move to fusion. I'd prefer an all in one device but everyone seems to advise against it so considering a PAP2T. I'll go fusion so FLS up/down but we're about 6km from the exchange so need to know if there will be any QoS issues with the proposed set up

Also is there anyway to test potential speed of the line - at the moment we're on 256/128 with telstra but i'd be keen to know what sort of speed we could obtain (especially when considering the move to voip)

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#130340 12-May-2008 19:50

As far as I know, the D-Link is better for long lines.

The PAP2T works, but I would recommend the SPA2102 which you connect in series with your network which takes care of QOS.

XNet also does QOS, so you should be fine with them as your ISP. I've used VFX while on Stream and never had any call quality issues. I think it might be a bit limiting when if you do 3 way calling.

There are tables on the internet which graph line attenuation against expected speed. Just log into your modem and check the downstream line attenuation. Without looking at what yours is or even checking what to expect for a 6km line, I would guess around 1.5Mbps would be easily doable but do not quote me on that.

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#130348 12-May-2008 20:08

ahhh so with the spa2102 the connections goes modem to spa2102 and then to network - and I'm assumign that the advantage of this (over a pap2t connected to one port of a modem/router along with the network devices on the other ports of the modem router) is that is gives QoS when the latter configuration does not?

And does it matter that much in our setting (low level net traffic, no three way calls etc etc)

hmmm

cheers for the advice

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#130355 12-May-2008 20:34

On long lines I recommend Dynalink RTA1320 into Linksys WRP400. This will be more stable than the DLink. I've successfully setup a Fusion connection on a line approx 6Km from exchange, line attenuation of 62db.

Log into your router and post your line stats here.

Be aware though, on these more marginal lines, there is obviously less margin for QoS to work well, and is more prone to issues. If you have other large Internet users in the family / house, then this can cause problems. Basically, you should have no issues with light Internet use during voice calls, but some heavy usage on such a marginal line may have an impact.

If you can stretch to getting the Linksys WRP400, do this and try it out using the Dlink (disable DLink wireless & plug all PCs etc into WRP400). If that works OK, then all good, if not then toss the DLink & in with the RTA1320.

Another tip, to sort of try before you buy; switch to Xnet flood + VFX. Setup call diversion immediate. Divert all calls to your (temp) VFX line and see how it goes. Once happy, complete the switch to Fusion.

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#130356 12-May-2008 20:39

ADSL status shows the ADSL physical layer status.

ADSL Firmware Version:		6.00.01.00 - 6.00.01.00 - 6.00.04.00 Annex A - 01.07.2b - 0.54
ADSL Software Version:		V3.02B01T01.NZ.20070329
Line State		Connected
Modulation		ADSL_G.dmt
Annex Mode		function uiShowAnnex() { var Datapump_ver = "6.00.04.00 Annex A"; var annex; if (Datapump_ver.indexOf("Annex") == -1){ annex = "N/A"; }else{ annex = Datapump_ver.slice(Datapump_ver.indexOf("Annex")); } //alert(annex); document.write(annex); } uiShowAnnex(); Annex A
Max Tx Power		-38 dBm/Hz

Item	Downstream	Upstream	Unit
SNR Margin	7	23	dB
Line Attenuation	51	29	dB
Data Rate	4352	160	kbps

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#130359 12-May-2008 20:42

No large users on this connection (and I'm a light user in the scale of things)

Would prefer to not have to get too much hardware and would ideally love to get a one hit device (modem, router, wireless and ata) call me naieve but why doesn't someone make a device like this that just works well

?????

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#130372 12-May-2008 20:59

benkepes: No large users on this connection (and I'm a light user in the scale of things)

Would prefer to not have to get too much hardware and would ideally love to get a one hit device (modem, router, wireless and ata) call me naieve but why doesn't someone make a device like this that just works well

?????

Your line stats are actually pretty good (for a long line), so I see no real issues, especially since you also seem to be a light user. Assuming you use the wireless on your router, the SPA2102 is no real advantage for QoS. If you plan to fax, then yes get the SPA2102, else the PAP2T will be fine.

Your line speed is around 4meg, which is better than my less than 3meg. I have no issues with using a PAP2T on my connection. You can pretty much go straight to Fusion no problem.

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#130452 13-May-2008 05:56

awesome coffee baron - thanks very much

btw - coffee baron in terms of drinking or something else - I only ask becuase Geoff Marsland @ Havana Coffee has used the title coffee baron for years

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#130484 13-May-2008 09:06

benkepes: awesome coffee baron - thanks very much

btw - coffee baron in terms of drinking or something else - I only ask becuase Geoff Marsland @ Havana Coffee has used the title coffee baron for years

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Yea, I got nicknamed this tittle some years ago. I use to sell a bit of coffee, and I'm known for making a petty decent shot. My side picture is my home espresso machine. Some people think I must be some kind of addict, but I don't drink it all day and night, just day, unless it's the weekend :) :) But seriously, I like 2-3 good shots a day, rather than a heap of cheap & weak ones.

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#130495 13-May-2008 09:39

sweet - next time you're in chch I'll buy you a (C4) coffee

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