Home mail server relaying through Vodafone

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#228562 11-Jan-2018 21:27

I've had a old mail server sitting in the corner of the study that I've used to provide mailing lists for a sports club since the early 2000s. It relays mail through smtp.telstraclear.net.nz (correction: smtp.clear.net.nz), but since early 23 Dec that server has rejected every email we've tried to send - mostly with "Spam message rejected" (they're not spam) but also a few with "Insufficient system storage" (?) and a few with "Error: too many recipients" (they have one recipient). After a bit of thought I'm wondering if these error messages are misleading and it's actually to do with the Vodafone mail shutdown.

Has anyone else found this problem with their Voda SMTP servers? Can anyone recommend any alternative servers for relaying through?

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#1937409 11-Jan-2018 21:42

try changing it to smtp.vodafone.co.nz

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#1937412 11-Jan-2018 22:00

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try changing it to smtp.vodafone.co.nz

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That server does respond! But it requires authentication and I've never had a Vodafone email account (that I have ever used or set up) so no luck there.

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#1937415 11-Jan-2018 22:05

Hang on sorry you are relaying email not surprised at all it's no longer working. Who is your ISP on the end of that mail server?

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#1937419 11-Jan-2018 22:15

Vodafone now... but originally TelstraClear which is why we used smtp.clear.net.nz.

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#1937421 11-Jan-2018 22:28

Are you sure this was not impacted by Vodafone's changes in emails services late last year?

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#1937423 11-Jan-2018 22:34

freitasm:
Are you sure this was not impacted by Vodafone's changes in emails services late last year?

Yeah I was going to ask the same thing.

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#1937427 11-Jan-2018 22:38

It's quite possible - so would be interested if anyone else had the same problem.

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#1937449 12-Jan-2018 01:44

might have to change to gmail for a relay

i use gmail apps for my server emails

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#1937509 12-Jan-2018 08:46

Or just use a decent mailer service like mail chimp?

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#1937777 12-Jan-2018 18:12

Thanks for the suggestions...

biggal:

might have to change to gmail for a relay

i use gmail apps for my server emails

Does this work? I seem to recall that Google changes the From: field to whatever account is used to authenticate, which wouldn't suit us. Could be wrong though.

chevrolux: Or just use a decent mailer service like mail chimp?

That is an option but I'd rather keep our current set up which allows members to use the mailing lists for discussions, rather than the mailer services which are really broadcast only.

Mattmannz:

Sign up for a free Sendgrid account perhaps?

That would be good but we would definitely break the 100/day limit for free accounts.

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#1937788 12-Jan-2018 18:30

We had a client last week using "Telstra" as their SMTP for their printer, and that stopped working, kept prompting for a username/password. Just setup a Gmail account for the SMTP and no problems.

So yes, Id say Vodafone have made changes rendering using them as a relay as redundant.

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#1937882 12-Jan-2018 21:23

TinyTim:

Thanks for the suggestions...

biggal:

might have to change to gmail for a relay

i use gmail apps for my server emails

Does this work? I seem to recall that Google changes the From: field to whatever account is used to authenticate, which wouldn't suit us. Could be wrong though.

Ok, so this does work: https://support.google.com/a/answer/2956491?hl=en - but I would have to upgrade from the free legacy G-Suite. Still, it may be worth it.

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#1937922 13-Jan-2018 08:23

I switched over to using a free account on mailjet.com. Allows 6000 emails/month and doesn't change sender address etc

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#1938859 15-Jan-2018 08:45

JREkiwi:

I switched over to using a free account on mailjet.com. Allows 6000 emails/month and doesn't change sender address etc

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I see this is actually 200/day with excess emails queued. This may do the job - I'll give it a try.

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