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Topic # 23070 17-Jun-2008 08:04
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Can anyone tell me the bookmark address for websites like trademe, wikipwedia, bebo, vodafoemail on vlive

eg m.trademe.co.nz - if i use this will i be charged for causal data usage as i am not going thru vodafone lives gateway so is there a vodafonelive.co.nz/m.trademe.co.nz address i can use

Please help...


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  Reply # 138615 17-Jun-2008 08:28
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The bookmark feature should be in your phone's browser somewhere.

As for "going through the vodafone gateway" I'm not quite sure what you mean. Browsing m.trademe.co.nz will never be free and will always cost you regular data rates except for a limited time now while it's free as an initial offering. There is no way to change your settings to view this site for free. As of late July Vodafone are changing their casual data plans (see here) and as of then even browsing Vodafone Live! will be charged at normal data rates.



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Reply # 138619 17-Jun-2008 08:38
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People have this wrong idea that traffic that goes through Vodafone live bookmards is free.

This is not the case. Sbiddle's comment is correct and make sure you read about the new casual rates coming late July.




 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 138698 17-Jun-2008 14:05
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sbiddle: The bookmark feature should be in your phone's browser somewhere.

As for "going through the vodafone gateway" I'm not quite sure what you mean. Browsing m.trademe.co.nz will never be free and will always cost you regular data rates except for a limited time now while it's free as an initial offering. There is no way to change your settings to view this site for free. As of late July Vodafone are changing their casual data plans (see here) and as of then even browsing Vodafone Live! will be charged at normal data rates.

FREE? Really? Where was this announced?

How do I make sure that I'm accessing Trademe from the walled garden to avoid data costs? Could clicking a link while I've gone to Trademe within the walled garden see me accidentally exit and be charged?

Being on Prepaid, how will I know if I've been charged incorrectly?

I guess this is why VF is getting rid of the walled garden

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  Reply # 138712 17-Jun-2008 14:25
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Vodafone sent out a press release today with this:


Vodafone is taking the internet mobile with access to a raft of new Web 2.0 sites, including Trade Me, Bebo, Facebook, YouTube, Wikipedia and Google on Vodafone live!


Vodafone has teamed up with Trade Me to give mobile customers access to the country’s number one website from their Vodafone live! enabled mobiles.

Now you can keep up with the auction for the car of your dreams from any Vodafone live! capable mobile in New Zealand.


A selection of the most popular internet sites are free to browse on Vodafone live! to July 27 including Trade Me.


Customers can log on to their Trade Me accounts, check watch lists, bid on items, view items won or lost and keep up with the play on auctions they’ve started and it’s all free to July 27.


Vodafone’s General Manager for Media and Entertainment, Charlie Clementson, is delighted to launch this service on Vodafone live!


“Customers want to access Trade Me on their mobiles so they don’t have to sit by the computer all day long watching auctions. Now they can take the  auctions with them when they leave the house. It really is mobile internet in action.”


Clementson says the deal with Trade Me is just the beginning of the mobile internet revolution.


“Customers can also access Bebo, Facebook, YouTube, Wikipedia and shortly we’ll offer users the ability to search the internet via their mobile with Google on Vodafone live!”



This applies only to the mobile version of these sites.





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  Reply # 138719 17-Jun-2008 14:39
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This applies only to the mobile version of these sites.

Yes but the question remains - by using the VFL links, is there STILL a possibility I can leave the walled garden inadvertantly and be charged?

Because I would be annoyed, given that there is no warning given.

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  Reply # 138720 17-Jun-2008 14:41
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"Vodafone is taking the internet mobile with access to a raft of new Web 2.0 sites, including Trade Me, Bebo, Facebook, YouTube, Wikipedia and Google on Vodafone live!"

I would assume anything that is not the mobile version of this sites to be charged. You can reach these sites from the Vodafone live! menu or directly from your browser, it doesn't matter.






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  Reply # 138728 17-Jun-2008 14:56
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freitasm: "Vodafone is taking the internet mobile with access to a raft of new Web 2.0 sites, including Trade Me, Bebo, Facebook, YouTube, Wikipedia and Google on Vodafone live!"

I would assume anything that is not the mobile version of this sites to be charged. You can reach these sites from the Vodafone live! menu or directly from your browser, it doesn't matter.


Werid posted twice...

Anyway, i know all about the free websites and all that jazz... i wanted to know what the address for these particular site are

i know trademe is m.trademe.co.nz and i can bookmark this web address and not be charged for usage (UNDER THE FREE USAGE UNTIL 27 JULY)... i am waiting to know the addresses for the other areas of VLive

VLive email

Wikipedia

Bebo



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  Reply # 138734 17-Jun-2008 15:12
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freitasm: A selection of the most popular internet sites are free to browse on Vodafone live! to July 27 including Trade Me.

I still don't get it.

For it to be free, we have to access it via the VF Live gateway - right?

But if we somehow leave the walled garden, we are charged - right?

Is there any chance that I could accidentally leave the walled garden but remain on Trademe, and therefore be charged?

This walled garden business is a minefield which is a good reason for it to be scrapped.

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  Reply # 138738 17-Jun-2008 15:25

The mobile versions of the websites are:

Free til 27th July: (as linked to by VLive)
Trade Me - http://m.trademe.co.nz
Facebook - http://m.facebook.com
Bebo - http://bebo.com/m/?partnerid=VodafoneNz (i believe also http://m.bebo.com)
YouTube - http://m.youtube.com
Wikipedia - http://vf.instinct.co.nz

Not Free:
Air NZ - http://www.airnz.mobi

Other Not Free Sites:
MySapce - http://m.myspace.com
BBC - http://www.bbc.co.uk/mobile
CNN - http://m.cnn.com/
Flickr - http://m.flickr.com
MSN - http://mobile.msn.com
Twitter - http://m.twitter.com
NY Times - http://mobile.nytimes.com
FlightStats - http://mobile.flightstats.com
Google - http://m.google.com/

The Free links were all taken off Vodafone Live from the page "Try your fave websites free!"

Air NZ was taken from Hot Links section

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Reply # 138742 17-Jun-2008 15:32
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asbb1: [Anyway, i know all about the free websites and all that jazz... i wanted to know what the address for these particular site are


I was answering your question: "Yes but the question remains - by using the VFL links, is there STILL a possibility I can leave the walled garden inadvertantly and be charged?"

You didn't ask for the URLs. You are asking now.

I am leaving this discussion.




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  Reply # 138745 17-Jun-2008 15:43
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Mauricio did you mix me up with OP?

I still would like an opinion about my question if possible :)

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Reply # 138747 17-Jun-2008 15:47
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Arghhh. Sorry for that.

In short: regardless of coming from the Vodafone live! links or from a bookmark on your handset, the domain is what's the important. Traffic to m.trademe.co.nz is zero rated - as well as traffic to the other domains listed above.

If you go to any other domain that is not on the Vodafone live! site itself or any of the listed domains then I would expect it to be charged.

As for walled garden, this is going away from 28th July when all traffic is charged - even on Vodafone live!




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  Reply # 138752 17-Jun-2008 15:59
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freitasm: Arghhh. Sorry for that.

In short: regardless of coming from the Vodafone live! links or from a bookmark on your handset, the domain is what's the important. Traffic to m.trademe.co.nz is zero rated - as well as traffic to the other domains listed above.

If you go to any other domain that is not on the Vodafone live! site itself or any of the listed domains then I would expect it to be charged.

As for walled garden, this is going away from 28th July when all traffic is charged - even on Vodafone live!

Sorry :( I'm not being difficult but I still don't get it.

From what I've read here (and from the Vodafone Geek's posts - Paul?), you cannot surf to the sites DIRECTLY or you will be charged.

I was under the impression that it was ONLY free if you used the VF Live gateway.

Until this is clarified I'd be reluctant to point my phone to m.anything.com



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  Reply # 138775 17-Jun-2008 17:05
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cranz: The mobile versions of the websites are:

Free til 27th July: (as linked to by VLive)
Trade Me - http://m.trademe.co.nz
Facebook - http://m.facebook.com
Bebo - http://bebo.com/m/?partnerid=VodafoneNz (i believe also http://m.bebo.com)
YouTube - http://m.youtube.com
Wikipedia - http://vf.instinct.co.nz

Not Free:
Air NZ - http://www.airnz.mobi

Other Not Free Sites:
MySapce - http://m.myspace.com
BBC - http://www.bbc.co.uk/mobile
CNN - http://m.cnn.com/
Flickr - http://m.flickr.com
MSN - http://mobile.msn.com
Twitter - http://m.twitter.com
NY Times - http://mobile.nytimes.com
FlightStats - http://mobile.flightstats.com
Google - http://m.google.com/

The Free links were all taken off Vodafone Live from the page "Try your fave websites free!"

Air NZ was taken from Hot Links section


Thank you exectly what i wanted :)

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