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#23518 1-Jul-2008 17:49
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What happened to the thread about vodafone allegedly overcharging for visiting vf live and someone mounting a legal challenge?

It seems to have been deleted.

I for one would be shocked and very disapointed if vf has asked it's legal team to instruct geelzone to take the thread down.

Anyone?

[Moderator edit (tonyhughes): Do you really need that many exclamation marks?????????]

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  #141961 1-Jul-2008 17:52
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Last thing I remember was that VF did indeed give upto $60 worth of credit to the complainant....also VF staff's personal info was being displayed which I think was removed from the posts so maybe that led to a closure?




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  #141962 1-Jul-2008 17:55
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Fair enough to remove staff info but I think Maurico was removing that info himself. Surely the whole thread didn't need to be deleted. There had been some claims made that vf had an issue with their billing system which caused users to be charged for visiting vf live, if true this could have affected thousands of people, including geekzone users. I had been following the thread and didn't see any response from vf denying this so was watching with interest.

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#141969 1-Jul-2008 18:10
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Calm down, conspiracy theorists!

Vodafone wasn't involved in the decision to delete the thread. That was something that we moderators discussed in our little private forum and came to the conclusion that it went a bit too far - personal information being disclosed, private communications being posted without consent of one of the involved parties (not an official communication to Vodafone at all) and some other tidbits came into play.

The point was made, the person was contacted by a Vodafone staff and things are taken from there... If that is really being taken to courts, having a discussion here on Geekzone wouldn't make a difference. If the intention was to grab the attention of the mainstream media I hear it was successful in that.

So at the end and becuse the OP was calling some of the staff outright liars and causing some "drama" we decided it was more than we can take here in the forums.






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  #141970 1-Jul-2008 18:13
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Boooooooring.

You could have at least said that you can't comment at this stage and let us conspiracy theorists come up with some wild conclusions.Laughing

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#141973 1-Jul-2008 18:20
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marmel: Boooooooring.

You could have at least said that you can't comment at this stage and let us conspiracy theorists come up with some wild conclusions.Laughing
i will just sit here and wait for the black helicopters.

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#141975 1-Jul-2008 18:33
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Red helicopters, John, RED!




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#141976 1-Jul-2008 18:35
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marmel: Boooooooring.

You could have at least said that you can't comment at this stage and let us conspiracy theorists come up with some wild conclusions.


I can't comment on that.




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  #141980 1-Jul-2008 18:48

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marmel: Boooooooring.

You could have at least said that you can't comment at this stage and let us conspiracy theorists come up with some wild conclusions.


I can't comment on that.


Because I won't let him.

No, wait....

Tongue out




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#141984 1-Jul-2008 18:52
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This exact thread was foretold in the prophecy moderators foum. Tongue out

It was discussed at length, it was 100% our idea, and we were not requested or pressured in any way to remove it.

It's not often a thread gets removed, and the welfare of Vodafone NZ was not actually our first priority when we crunched the numbers.







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  #141986 1-Jul-2008 18:56
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Freedom of speech at it's finest :):)

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#141989 1-Jul-2008 19:04
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simon14: Freedom of speech at it's finest :):)

  1. Please provide a reference to find where free speech is offered / guaranteed / legislated in New Zealand, especially on somebody elses privately owned computer equipment.
  2. This is a privately run website, that is publicly accessible. No different to say, your doorstep on private property, or the foyer of a business.
  3. This is not about censorship, a business with shareholders is behind this site, and the interests of the shareholders in any business must be considered a high priority.







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#141995 1-Jul-2008 19:14
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cokemaster: Red helicopters, John, RED!


Sorry of course the red helicopters

(Wish they could give me a ride to work)

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#141999 1-Jul-2008 19:19
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johnr:
cokemaster: Red helicopters, John, RED!


Sorry of course the red helicopters

(Wish they could give me a ride to work)

Too busy giving GZ staff a ride - that was the threat - "lose the thread or lose the rides"







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#142004 1-Jul-2008 19:29
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simon14: Freedom of speech at it's finest :):)


I could even write more but Tony pretty much sums up. The "freedom of speech" is a civil right for one to be able to talk about policies without being presured. It's not guaranteed in New Zealand and certainly would not be something enforced on a private property as it happens to be this forum:


There is no statute or positive rule of the common law recognising and protecting freedom of speech and expression in New Zealand. The principle is that anyone may say and publish what he chooses without prior licence or approval (film censorship affords an exception), but he is liable to be punished if he infringes the law. Freedom of speech and expression, including freedom of the press, exists in this country simply because the exceptions to it are limited. It is less extensive than in the United States, where the provision of the Constitution guaranteeing freedom of speech and the press tends to be more valued in cases where it conflicts with other principles, for instance, the right to a fair trial. Moreover, toleration of unpopular views in critical times is probably less than in England. Our civil liberties record in wartime is not admirable.



In other words, if you act like a Troll your posts may be deleted and you may be banned from accessing Geekzone.

Why people can't understand that? Too many movies?





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"This is not about censorship, a business with shareholders is behind this site, and the interests of the shareholders in any business must be considered a high priority."

This statement made me curious so I checked Geekzone's contact information. Mr. Freitas runs Soho Solutions, which owns and runs Geekzone. Just wondering, who do you normally recommend in any given mobile 'solution' for your clients? Vodafone or Telecom? Wink

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