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Topic # 242252 17-Oct-2018 21:34
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Anybody else noticed that the MX for clear.net.nz is not responding?


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  Reply # 2110062 17-Oct-2018 21:42
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uh? Vodafone shutdown their email ages ago?





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  Reply # 2110070 17-Oct-2018 21:54
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Title of thread is misleading

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Ex JohnR VodafoneNZ 17 years 4 days



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  Reply # 2110087 17-Oct-2018 22:12
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They are still supposed to be forwarding mail - can't do that without a live MX ..

 

$ dig mx clear.net.nz

 

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;clear.net.nz. IN MX

 

;; ANSWER SECTION:
clear.net.nz. 233 IN MX 20 mx.clear.net.nz.

 

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
clear.net.nz. 36208 IN NS dns1.clear.net.nz.
clear.net.nz. 36208 IN NS dns2.clear.net.nz.

 

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
mx.clear.net.nz. 23 IN A 203.118.158.229

 

SMTP connection times out.

 

 




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  Reply # 2110094 17-Oct-2018 22:25
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The paradise.net.nz MX record points to the same host.

 

zuul.ihug.net is the MX for vodafone.{net,co}.nz and was dead last night when I looked but back up now.

 

The helpdesk said there was an email outage for hosted domains, but denied all knowledge of a clear.net.nz problem.

 

Offered to re-apply my address to forward to ...

 

Had no clue what an MX does and "tier 2 doesn't talk to customers"...


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  Reply # 2110274 18-Oct-2018 09:25
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I'm still unable to telnet on port 25 to 203.118.158.229 (mx.clear.net.nz/mx.paradise.net.nz) and outbound mail to this server is sitting in our Exchange queue retrying.

 

EDIT: Looking at the delayed messages in our queue, it has been down since at least Tuesday afternoon. Nothing on the Vodafone network status page.


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  Reply # 2110282 18-Oct-2018 09:35
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  Reply # 2110476 18-Oct-2018 13:17
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Yip definitely an issue. Gmail is throwing back this error to senders. It will keep trying to 45 more hours.

 

 

 

 

 

The response was:

 

The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. Learn more at https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720 [mx.clear.net.nz. 203.118.158.229: timed out]

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2110975 19-Oct-2018 13:58
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Thanks for explaining why my clear.net traffic has got jammed. Mine is now coming through slowly, but in random sequence: I'm seeing replies to replies before I see the original post. (Messages with attachments are taking a particularly long time: I know because the sender has asked why I haven't replied yet.)

Traffic from github getting jammed is causing me real pain: as soon as github polls and sees a 'message stuck' status, it immediately inactivates my account, and it's awkward to re-activate.

I've been using a clear.net address for more than 20 years. All my subscriptions/forums use it; too many to even be sure which, let alone whether they'll let me continue the subscription under a different email.

Do you think voda are eventually going to kill off the clear.net domain?

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  Reply # 2111051 19-Oct-2018 15:37
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AntC:

 

[snip]

 

Do you think voda are eventually going to kill off the clear.net domain?

 

Let's think about it ...

 

  • Benefits to Vodafone from keeping clear.net.nz 'working': goodwill from mostly years-ago former customers, no monetary value whatsoever
  • Costs to Vodafone: small but non-zero and slowly but inexorably increasing

What do you think the bean-counters will say?

 

Yes, I still have a small amount of mail still coming to my old clear.net.nz address, mostly for accounts that have proved difficult / impossible to change. I am resigned to the probability that it will vanish before too much longer.
Sigh.
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  Reply # 2111061 19-Oct-2018 15:53
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AntC:
Do you think voda are eventually going to kill off the clear.net domain?

 

my bet is they will spend less & less time/money into keeping it running . Expect zero maintenance .
One day it will fail & they just wont bother to fix it. Just a matter of time :-)

Plan for the worst, dont get caught out


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