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Topic # 242966 21-Nov-2018 21:53
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Press release 3 and a half years ago https://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=17191 says

 

“We’ve continued to develop and invest heavily in our 4G network since we launched the service two years ago – including constantly increasing our population coverage – and we’ll continue to do so as we work towards the commercial launch of VoLTE in the near future.”

 

So - how far away is the near future?


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  Reply # 2131322 21-Nov-2018 21:58
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I suppose they forgot how many millions it costs to buy 5G suitable radio spectrum and the extra millions to rollout a 5G network.


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  Reply # 2131343 21-Nov-2018 22:52
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And their heavy 4G investment has certainly become more light weight lately as they are left behind flying Sparks :)




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  Reply # 2131350 21-Nov-2018 23:10
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coffeebaron: And their heavy 4G investment has certainly become more light weight lately as they are left behind flying Sparks :)

 

so i picked up a prepay 2d sim today for some uh, mapping..

 

 

 

flipped that sim to 4g, and i was surprised... Although possibly not in raw winning in raw bandwdith - I haven't really checked this.

 

i saw far more CA there.. some nice reframing too.

 

 

 

I'm sure Vodafone have a plan etc, but it's just... don't impress me much anymore.

 

I only use it for the sure signal at my feet!





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  Reply # 2131453 22-Nov-2018 06:38
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I know VodafoneNZ was working on a IMS platform quite a while back no idea what happened

 

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  Reply # 2134499 26-Nov-2018 14:28
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Can't talk specifically about any future product/services but there's a huge platform change in the works, and that is one part of the puzzle to enable VoLTE (among other things).


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  Reply # 2136241 28-Nov-2018 19:42
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konfusd:

 

Can't talk specifically about any future product/services but there's a huge platform change in the works, and that is one part of the puzzle to enable VoLTE (among other things).

 

I received a reply back from the CEO of Vodafone after having a good old whinge about the lack of a unified billing system - apparently that is another thing being worked on. It'll be interesting to see what happens with the 600MHz being made available for 5G in the next few years. Looking forward to seeing things improve and new technology launched.





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  Reply # 2136247 28-Nov-2018 20:09
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matisyahu:

konfusd:


Can't talk specifically about any future product/services but there's a huge platform change in the works, and that is one part of the puzzle to enable VoLTE (among other things).


I received a reply back from the CEO of Vodafone after having a good old whinge about the lack of a unified billing system - apparently that is another thing being worked on. It'll be interesting to see what happens with the 600MHz being made available for 5G in the next few years. Looking forward to seeing things improve and new technology launched.



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  Reply # 2136276 28-Nov-2018 21:28
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matisyahu:

 

konfusd:

 

Can't talk specifically about any future product/services but there's a huge platform change in the works, and that is one part of the puzzle to enable VoLTE (among other things).

 

I received a reply back from the CEO of Vodafone after having a good old whinge about the lack of a unified billing system - apparently that is another thing being worked on. It'll be interesting to see what happens with the 600MHz being made available for 5G in the next few years. Looking forward to seeing things improve and new technology launched.

 

 

In a large number countries incl NZ (but excluding the USA) 600MHz is used for TV broadcasts and won't be used for 5G.

 

There are actually very few benefits in 600MHz for 5G - the benefits of 5G are in the mmWave band where a large chunk of spectrum is available. A 5G network in a 20MHz block of spectrum isn't really going to deliver much that 4G does right now.

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2136286 28-Nov-2018 21:57
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I see Tmobile has been testing on the 600MHZ for 5G transmission.

 

 

 

https://www.t-mobile.com/news/first-600mhz-5g-test


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  Reply # 2136322 28-Nov-2018 22:24
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What's the point of VoLTE? Unless you're actually a heavy phone AND data user (at the same time), there's not much to be excited about, is there?

 

 

 

Mrs is on VF here in Oz, and I'm with Telstra and we both have it. Unless you look at your phone and it says "HD Voice", you'd never really be able notice.


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  Reply # 2136325 28-Nov-2018 22:30
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blakamin:

 

What's the point of VoLTE? Unless you're actually a heavy phone AND data user (at the same time), there's not much to be excited about, is there?

 

 

 

Mrs is on VF here in Oz, and I'm with Telstra and we both have it. Unless you look at your phone and it says "HD Voice", you'd never really be able notice.

 

 

i think the largest gain will be it may finally be the coin drop for cross provider support.

 

 

 

as a dual sim user, It's literally light and day between audio on the same network (HD voice over 3G) vs normal voice over 3G.. 





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  Reply # 2136331 28-Nov-2018 22:50
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hio77:

 

blakamin:

 

What's the point of VoLTE? Unless you're actually a heavy phone AND data user (at the same time), there's not much to be excited about, is there?

 

 

 

Mrs is on VF here in Oz, and I'm with Telstra and we both have it. Unless you look at your phone and it says "HD Voice", you'd never really be able notice.

 

 

i think the largest gain will be it may finally be the coin drop for cross provider support.

 

 

 

as a dual sim user, It's literally light and day between audio on the same network (HD voice over 3G) vs normal voice over 3G.. 

 

 

Fair call.

 

Ours is def better than when she was with optus (no optus 4G in our town) but it's not life changing. Might be better on a headset. I'll give it a go tomorrow. 


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  Reply # 2136332 28-Nov-2018 22:52
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blakamin:

 

What's the point of VoLTE? Unless you're actually a heavy phone AND data user (at the same time), there's not much to be excited about, is there?

 

 

 

Mrs is on VF here in Oz, and I'm with Telstra and we both have it. Unless you look at your phone and it says "HD Voice", you'd never really be able notice.

 

 

LTE has better coverage so they turn it down so people don't have signal and then whine when the legacy voice product doesn't work despite having signal.

 

Moving it to data instead of circuit switched means it can be on the LTE network which is so much better.

 

Also might allow for better call screening without ruining my data use whereas at the moment it gets kicked down to 3g even when the call is rejected by the handset.





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  Reply # 2136340 28-Nov-2018 23:46
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Would it provide better coverage than the old 025 network though? Yes I know they are different technologies...but man, you could get 025 (or paging) coverage almost anywhere.


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  Reply # 2136341 28-Nov-2018 23:48
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sbiddle:

 

There are actually very few benefits in 600MHz for 5G - the benefits of 5G are in the mmWave band where a large chunk of spectrum is available. A 5G network in a 20MHz block of spectrum isn't really going to deliver much that 4G does right now.

 

 

 

It's rather incremental... but a bit of a gain.. 





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