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#28489 1-Dec-2008 21:36
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I have a 2G iPhone running 1.1.4 which I've deliberately kept at version 1.x because I was not confident that APN changes and BossPrefs 2.x would allow me to control mobile data usage like I've been doing with BossPrefs 1.x.

The time has come for to revisit the idea of upgrading to 2.1 - previously I was reluctant because of mixed or wrong information from people posting here about the APN issue for a 2G phone.

So my questions are:

1. If I upgrade to 2.x for my jailbroken 2G phone, do I have to go to unlockit.co.nz to ENable data or is there another way?

2. If I want to then BLOCK mobile data usage, will any of the options on unlockit.co.nz do that for me? Or is it still the case that even if you put a dummy or incorrect APN in using the site, that my 2G phone will still be able to access mobile data?

3. I know BossPrefs will block 3G data for me (but that doesn't apply anyway for my 2G phone) - will it block my 2G EDGE/GPRS data? I am aware that there is no EDGE network in NZ but I refer to it as EDGE because my BossPrefs does.

Anyone using a 2G phone running 2.x who routinely switches their data on and off on Vodafone Prepay and can help would be appreciated!

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  #181483 1-Dec-2008 22:42
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1. You can update the APN on the phone itself since 2.1.  Just go to the carrier settings menu and enter whatever you want.  OR, use Unlockit - works the same way.

2. If you want to block data just enter a dummy APN or leave it blank.  With no APN you have no data.

3. BossPrefs will let you turn on/off GPRS as you choose.  I used this until recently but now use SBSettings as it has a nicer UI integration. 

None of the reasons you've listed are an issue.  At worst you may find the phone slightly sluggish on 2.2 software, but it's much better all round than 1.1.4 and 2.1.  The features alone make it worth the upgrade.  But yes, its fully customisable and you can turn all the data on/off as you see fit. 

FYI I rarely do any GPRS data stuff except that my phone is connected to the Exchange server.  I have a 15MB data cap on top of my account and I never go over the cap each month.  In fact I get a few hundred emails on it each month and never reach my 15MB.  So unless you're doing browsing or something the phone will not cause you to use much data even if you have an APN set up. 

Make sure you use PwnageTool or WinPwn, not QuickPwn as I've run into many issues with QuickPwn.  If you can use the full PwnageTool in advanced mode then all the better.

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  #181497 1-Dec-2008 23:43
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Thanks for that. I have access to a Leopard Mac or a Windows XP or Vista machine.

Which is the preferred software platform?

And I asked about APN because I heard of reports that even dummy APNs were STILL allowing and charging data?

Had you heard this because it scares me. I believe even Lennon (?) who designed unlockit.co.nz was aware of this nuance?

That's why I've been paranoid about upgrading and then "leaking" data usage.

 
 
 
 


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  #181520 2-Dec-2008 08:25
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Well I can confirm from my own experience that I'm not going over 15Mb a month with all the use I put data through, if I were leaking any data anywhere I would know about it since I'm on such a small data plan.

I use an iMac as my synced machine for my iPhone, purely because it's my main machine at home.  If you have access to it I suggest using PwnageTool from blog.iphone-dev.org to pwn the firmware.  You can then use iTunes on either Windows or Mac depending on what you want to use mainly, to restore the pwned firmware to the iPhone and set it up as a device.

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  #181521 2-Dec-2008 08:48
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what i do is this

if i DONT want casual data, (no data)  i use the  www.iphone-vodafone.net.nz  APN, which does not work, because im not subscribed to a iphone dataplan

if i DO want casual data, i edit the APN, and remove the z from .nz, creating an invalid APN, which means Casual data Works.

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  #181533 2-Dec-2008 09:55
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gehenna: Well I can confirm from my own experience that I'm not going over 15Mb a month with all the use I put data through, if I were leaking any data anywhere I would know about it since I'm on such a small data plan.

I am talking about prepaid, casual data, not on a plan. Even a tiny amount of usage could easy rack up the $1 in a day. Are you on prepay?

dan: what i do is this

if i DONT want casual data, (no data) i use the www.iphone-vodafone.net.nz APN, which does not work, because im not subscribed to a iphone dataplan

if i DO want casual data, i edit the APN, and remove the z from .nz, creating an invalid APN, which means Casual data Works.

Hi are you on prepaid? Thanks.

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  #181546 2-Dec-2008 11:38
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ahmad:
gehenna: Well I can confirm from my own experience that I'm not going over 15Mb a month with all the use I put data through, if I were leaking any data anywhere I would know about it since I'm on such a small data plan.


I am talking about prepaid, casual data, not on a plan. Even a tiny amount of usage could easy rack up the $1 in a day. Are you on prepay?



dan: what i do is this

if i DONT want casual data, (no data) i use the www.iphone-vodafone.net.nz APN, which does not work, because im not subscribed to a iphone dataplan

if i DO want casual data, i edit the APN, and remove the z from .nz, creating an invalid APN, which means Casual data Works.


Hi are you on prepaid? Thanks.


nope I'm on a plan - BUT, I Thought it was $1 a day for 10MB - I don't even use 15MB for a whole month of getting emails...

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  #181651 2-Dec-2008 19:15
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No it's $1 per day for up to 10Mb for that day only, and only charged on the days that you use it.

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