Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


freitasm

BDFL - Memuneh
80646 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 41030

Administrator
ID Verified
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

#285949 27-May-2021 14:57
Send private message

Just received:


On Monday, Vodafone’s last dial-up internet service will cease working as the digital services provider moves customers onto newer, more reliable and secure technology solutions.

 

Dial-up internet uses the old telephone network, and is finally being phased out as newer and better forms of internet connectivity have come to the fore - such as fibre broadband and wireless access solutions including 4G and 5G Broadband.

 

David Redmore, acting Experience & Commercial Director at Vodafone NZ explains, “Dial-up is old technology and is very rudimentary in today’s modern world. While we kept it going for as long as possible to support the shrinking number of customers who use it, it’s finally time to retire our dial-up service after almost 30 years and help those customers move to better options.

 

“Over the past few months, we’ve been contacting the final thousand or so customers who were still using dial-up to explain why we’re about to turn this technology off. It’s now crunch time, and Monday will mark the last day of Vodafone’s dial-up internet service.”

 

Dial-up is a type of internet access that was used before Broadband. It uses a 56k modem and a phone line to create a connection. The primary job of a dial-up modem is to take digital information and convert it back to an analog signal that can travel over a telephone line.

 

“There are a number of older services that are being retired now and over the next few years, including dial-up, the old traditional copper landline, and wherever we can older forms of copper, wireless, and cable broadband that are legacy technologies. We’re contacting customers to encourage them onto newer, more reliable, easier to support connectivity.

 

“Older telecommunications services like dial-up can be less reliable, difficult to support, and are steadily being shut down around Aotearoa, so we need to upgrade people onto future-proofed options either out of necessity, or to ensure we can continue to offer the value and reliability our customers expect. Change can be hard, and we’ve been trying to support customers as much as possible, including providing advanced warning that an old product like dial-up is being shut down.”

 

Access types that dial-up customers are being switched to use include fibre or wireless broadband, depending on where they live, the ease of being able to turn on a new service, or whether a fibre connection has already been installed.

 

All customers impacted by a pending product closure or who have better value, more reliable alternatives to old technologies are given advance notice with their options clearly laid out for them.

 

Redmore adds: “Customers often tell us they expect reliable, easy to install and fit for purpose internet, home phone and mobile solutions. We’ve set up a special team that customers impacted by old product closures can contact to get support, and we work hard to make the transition to newer tech is as smooth as possible for them.”

 





Referral links: Quic Broadband (free setup code: R587125ERQ6VE) | Samsung | AliExpress | Wise | Sharesies 

 

Support Geekzone by subscribing (browse ads-free), or making a one-off or recurring donation through PressPatron.

 


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2 | 3
wellygary
8810 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5287


  #2713841 27-May-2021 15:10
Send private message

It would be really interesting to know how many of those " thousand or so" were actual people and whether there was still some machine-machine comms using dial up...




alasta
6888 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3362

Trusted
Subscriber

  #2713845 27-May-2021 15:18
Send private message

I'm surprised this hasn't already happened a long time ago!


PolicyGuy
1820 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1769

ID Verified
Lifetime subscriber

  #2713968 27-May-2021 15:55
Send private message

wellygary:It would be really interesting to know how many of those " thousand or so" were actual people and whether there was still some machine-machine comms using dial up...

 

My former employer only retired its fax server in 2017, maybe even 2018.

 

Last time I was in the doctor's surgery, maybe three months ago, I for sure heard the sound of a fax machine connecting with another one.
Probably medicine will be about the last bastion of the fax machine




Zeon
3926 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 759

Trusted

  #2713986 27-May-2021 16:12
Send private message

Man the memories..... dial you may be gone but not forgotten!

 





Speedtest 2019-10-14


Oblivian
7345 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2117

ID Verified

  #2713990 27-May-2021 16:24
Send private message

PolicyGuy:

 

Last time I was in the doctor's surgery, maybe three months ago, I for sure heard the sound of a fax machine connecting with another one.
Probably medicine will be about the last bastion of the fax machine

 

 

Not sure much has changed. 2019:

 

https://www.cdhb.health.nz/wp-content/uploads/83e9e7df-cdhb-9997-fax-machines-owned-dhb.pdf 

 

Since then DHBs/Pharmacies etc have been given a deadline by end of 2020. But you still see them sitting there, so someones still using them! (probably specialists..)


boosacnoodle
1269 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 855


  #2714005 27-May-2021 16:57
Send private message

What about those who don't have any other connectivity options and cannot afford satellite services?


 
 
 

Shop now on AliExpress (affiliate link).
wellygary
8810 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5287


  #2714013 27-May-2021 17:06
Send private message

PolicyGuy:

 

wellygary:It would be really interesting to know how many of those " thousand or so" were actual people and whether there was still some machine-machine comms using dial up...

 

My former employer only retired its fax server in 2017, maybe even 2018.

 

Last time I was in the doctor's surgery, maybe three months ago, I for sure heard the sound of a fax machine connecting with another one.
Probably medicine will be about the last bastion of the fax machine

 

 

Or Japan ....

 

From just a month ago

 

"Administrative reform minister Taro Kono said in an April 13 press conference that fax machines used by ministries and agencies in the central government hub district of Kasumigaseki in the capital "are a hindrance to telework" and revealed his intention to abolish the use of the machines." https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20210414/p2a/00m/0na/002000c

 

 


antonknee
1133 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1145


  #2714023 27-May-2021 17:21
Send private message

Oh my, today I learned Vodafone still offered dialup.

 

boosacnoodle:

 

What about those who don't have any other connectivity options and cannot afford satellite services?

 

 

Serious question, how many people are actually in this boat? 


mattwnz
20515 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4795


  #2714028 27-May-2021 17:34
Send private message

I suspect some people, such as in rural locations, still have dialup, and they may only use it for email. They were also on Seven sharp yesterday saying that landlines would be phased out by 2024, and that the numbers using them were now only in the tens of thousands. Not sure if that is just their own customers, many who may only be mobile users,  or across all of NZ. 

 

But considering what happened with the Christchurch earthquakes and the mobile networks being overwhelmed, whereas fixed line phones continued to work, I wonder if the mobile networks could cope with that sort of load during a major disaster event. I have a landline, but it is going through fibre via a socket on the ONT, and as it is free calling in teh area, I mainly only use the mobile for data.


DjShadow
4222 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1322

ID Verified
Trusted
Subscriber

  #2714063 27-May-2021 18:50
Send private message

boosacnoodle:

 

What about those who don't have any other connectivity options and cannot afford satellite services?

 

 

I feel you would have to be living extremely remote, and in that case I'd be surprised if you could achieve a 56k connection.

 

RCG would of plugged a lot of coverage gaps and/or WISPS would have coverage available


NickMack
977 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 831

Trusted
In memoriam
Lifetime subscriber

  #2714066 27-May-2021 18:58
Send private message

Zeon:

 

Man the memories..... dial you may be gone but not forgotten!

 

 

 

I still use a 56k modem handshaking/connecting as my ringtone.. and still run a BBS :-) http://bbs.thenet.gen.nz





 
 
 
 

Shop now for Dyson appliances (affiliate link).
nztim
4012 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2710

ID Verified
Trusted
TEAMnetwork
Subscriber

  #2714069 27-May-2021 19:08
Send private message

mattwnz:

I suspect some people, such as in rural locations, still have dialup, and they may only use it for email. They were also on Seven sharp yesterday saying that landlines would be phased out by 2024, and that the numbers using them were now only in the tens of thousands. Not sure if that is just their own customers, many who may only be mobile users,  or across all of NZ. 


But considering what happened with the Christchurch earthquakes and the mobile networks being overwhelmed, whereas fixed line phones continued to work, I wonder if the mobile networks could cope with that sort of load during a major disaster event. I have a landline, but it is going through fibre via a socket on the ONT, and as it is free calling in teh area, I mainly only use the mobile for data.



or Covid…. in the first week of lockdown mobile networks were overwhelmed




Any views expressed on these forums are my own and don't necessarily reflect those of my employer. 


Dynamike
167 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 52


  #2714076 27-May-2021 19:38
Send private message

DjShadow:

 

boosacnoodle: What about those who don't have any other connectivity options and cannot afford satellite services

 

I feel you would have to be living extremely remote, and in that case I'd be surprised if you could achieve a 56k connection.RCG would of plugged a lot of coverage gaps and/or WISPS would have coverage available

 

All depends on the landscape. Drive a few minutes out of Whanganui and you’ll find narrow winding valleys with no cellular, wireless or ADSL coverage.


freitasm

BDFL - Memuneh
80646 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 41030

Administrator
ID Verified
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

  #2714078 27-May-2021 19:44
Send private message

What???

 





Referral links: Quic Broadband (free setup code: R587125ERQ6VE) | Samsung | AliExpress | Wise | Sharesies 

 

Support Geekzone by subscribing (browse ads-free), or making a one-off or recurring donation through PressPatron.

 


MadEngineer
4591 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2570

Trusted

  #2714082 27-May-2021 19:55
Send private message

boosacnoodle:

What about those who don't have any other connectivity options and cannot afford satellite services?



Good luck actually using modern day internet over a 56k connection




You're not on Atlantis anymore, Duncan Idaho.

 1 | 2 | 3
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic








Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.