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Topic # 29301 2-Jan-2009 11:31
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Hey Everyone!
I was wondering if XNET actually gave us the flexibility to have static routes? I am in the same city as another box I own (on another ISP) and a lot of traffic moves between those boxes, usually 10gb+ per day...
The problem im having is that all the traffic comes up as national rather than local. So that brings me back to my question, can I get XNET to add a static route to this box so the traffic is counted as local?
Also, is all local traffic free? :D hehe that would be so awesome if it were possible!
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J

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  Reply # 186990 2-Jan-2009 11:37
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Just because your device is in the same city as another doesn't mean there's direct connectivity locally between those networks.

However, if you can show XNet that their routing isn't optimal (i.e. you know there's a better path, you don't just think there is) then I'm sure they'd look at it. Static I very much doubt, but they might BGP peer with a provider if it's possible.

Also depends what sort of customer you are. Customer, I doubt it. Business - Maybe!

edit: Cool, the Iceland flag shows up. First post from Iceland??

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  Reply # 186991 2-Jan-2009 11:45
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If the server you're transferring between is on another ISP, the data will always be counted as National.
Local data is defined as data between the customer side and Xnet's data centre, it does not mean data within the same geographic area.  Examples of local content for Xnet customers include the Akamai caches, Xnet DNS, Recoil, Gameplanet, Wicks FTP.
There was once a time when national traffic was free on most ISP's, but this isn't done anymore as it leads to leeches using it to transfer huge amounts of data which results in backhaul to DSL services being hammered.  



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  Reply # 186992 2-Jan-2009 11:53
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Well, I am a business customer. The other ISP happens to be FX Networks and we are getting 100mbps national with unlimited bandwidth for national and international traffic.
I happen to know that there is an alternative route that could be used, that could cut out some of the hops even.
So even if I managed to get XNET to route the traffic differently I would still be paying for it?  eg, still not local traffic?
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  Reply # 186994 2-Jan-2009 11:56
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Xnet already have direct interconnect with FX Networks.  Data will still be considered national as it is leaving Xnet's core network.

Edit: Sorry, to answer your last question - even if you know a better way to interconnect with FX it would still be national - the classification isn't to do with the cost of the data, it's to do with the fact that if it were national, you're talking about moving 300GB+ a month, so hopefully you can understand why they wouldn't want customers able to do this at no charge.  300GB a month averaged out means you'd be taking up a consistent 1Mbit of data on the backhaul between your DSL endpoint and Xnet - the price being charged for say, Fusion ($70) does not cover the cost of providing that level of bandwidth on a consistent basis.  You paying the extra $300 in data a month covers it.

If you need to move this much data consistently, you should look at dedicated access products as you can then purchase dedicated national bandwidth from Xnet and this would work out cheaper for 300GB+ a month, depending on your location.  They won't be cost effective if you're doing sub 300GB or don't have some other reason for requiring a higher grade service though, so look at your usage patterns.



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  Reply # 186995 2-Jan-2009 11:59
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Ohk thanks :)
Off topic, why is my flag australian??

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  Reply # 187344 4-Jan-2009 18:27
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iceberg2403: Off topic, why is my flag australian??


Possibly the component that freitasm is using to do country lookups is either outdated or it has your IP listed incorrectly.  If I do a search on your IP address this is what shows:

inetnum: 118.90.0.0 - 118.90.255.255
netname: WXNZ
descr: WorldxChange Communications
descr: Internet Service Provider
descr: Auckland
descr: New Zealand
country: NZ

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Reply # 187345 4-Jan-2009 18:29
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It's an IP database updated every month. Some IP address ranges are listed as Australia (some IHUG addresses) and some listed as USA (Telecom Mobile Broadband service). I have no idea why.

The flags are a reference only - visitors don't see these, only logged in users.




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  Reply # 187670 6-Jan-2009 00:01
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iceberg2403: Well, I am a business customer. The other ISP happens to be FX Networks and we are getting 100mbps national with unlimited bandwidth for national and international traffic.
I happen to know that there is an alternative route that could be used, that could cut out some of the hops even.
So even if I managed to get XNET to route the traffic differently I would still be paying for it?  eg, still not local traffic?
Thanks
J


Sounds like it would be cheaper to get a 1mbps fibre connection to the other location with unlimited national traffic too also from FX networks.

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  Reply # 188789 11-Jan-2009 14:13
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A different question now, does anyone know if data from one XNET customer to another is Local or national? e.g. from one DSL connection to another???




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  Reply # 188790 11-Jan-2009 14:19
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  Reply # 189641 14-Jan-2009 21:53
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exportgoldman:

A different question now, does anyone know if data from one XNET customer to another is Local or national? e.g. from one DSL connection to another???


if it were local can you imaging how many dc+ hubs would be in opperation :)

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Reply # 189813 15-Jan-2009 17:05
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Is anyone here on fixed wireless services? We have Araneo through ICONZ and move around 500GB per month. It's a falt rate of $300 - admittedly that only ahs 64kbps of international bandwidth though but we hardly ever use it - except maybe for youtube at 11pm?

Edit: And my flag is turning up as Aussie, what an insult geekzone!!





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  Reply # 192895 30-Jan-2009 12:28
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exportgoldman:

A different question now, does anyone know if data from one XNET customer to another is Local or national? e.g. from one DSL connection to another???


Yes If you send the files via xnet E-mail. Not shure how big Xnet mailboxes are tho

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  Reply # 192900 30-Jan-2009 12:37
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E-mail is not counted against your data cap, which is another reason why I stick with XNet.  The mailbox is 100MB, but you should not send e-mails larger than 10MB (as a general rule I'm told).  And I'm sure they will not be happy if you start sending massive e-mails to avoid data usage.  Just like some other things, they do not mind if you occasionally do it but if you exploit it they will change the rules.




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