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# 36991 6-Jul-2009 11:56
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GSM with Vodafone, HSDPA with Vodafone (Tauranga, cancelled), CDMA with Telecom, back on WCDMA with Vodafone...

Note this is a MVNO offering, note a resale agreement. Also "leverage Telstra 3G" is going to be hard seeing that Telstra 3G is 850 MHz and Vodafone 3G is 2100/900 MHz...

Anyway, the full press release for you:

TelstraClear to offer next generation mobile with Vodafone

TelstraClear is to offer next generation mobile services after signing a three year agreement with Vodafone.

Next generation capability enables TelstraClear to build significantly on its current CDMA customer base and to offer competitive whole of business opportunities to the small-medium business and corporate sectors, while also serving consumers.

Mobile and fixed line broadband are the two growth segments in the Telecommunications industry. With a significant share of the fixed line broadband market TelstraClear is now able to offer competitive mobile data services.

“TelstraClear is now in a position to compete aggressively in the mobile broadband market,” TelstraClear Chief Executive, Dr Allan Freeth said.

“Our agreement ensures TelstraClear will have total control over our plans, handset range, customer base and international roaming is assured. Anyone considering next generation mobile or looking for simple, easy to understand plans needs to talk to TelstraClear before doing anything else.”

Vodafone is pleased to welcome back TelstraClear after the two companies ended a previous agency agreement in 2007.

“Vodafone’s advanced network coverage and speed is clearly a major drawcard as all the major mobile players bar one are using Vodafone’s network. The agreement with TelstraClear cements Vodafone’s position in the market as network of choice,” said Vodafone New Zealand chief executive, Russell Stanners.

Existing TelstraClear mobile customers will not be impacted – TelstraClear will continue to sell and support CDMA services and devices for the foreseeable future. With its next generation capability, customers with iPhones and other devices will be able to transfer those to TelstraClear’s service.

“TelstraClear believes in making telecommunications simple. It will be simple to join TelstraClear and it will be simple to understand the next generation mobile services we offer,” Dr Freeth said.

Frequently Asked Questions

What services will TelstraClear offer?
We are planning a new range of consumer offers and updating our Bizmobile plans which will be a tweak rather than an overhaul

When will TelstraClear launch its next generation mobile services?
The exact launch date is yet to be confirmed but TelstraClear will be in the market by before Christmas.

What handset range will TelstraClear be offering?
TelstraClear will have a portfolio of handsets that customers will be able to fit to purpose. Details will be released at appropriate times. One of the advantages of the new agreement is that the GSM/WCDMA phone supply chain will offer a broader range of devices that have a better range of features.

Will TelstraClear be offering the iPhone and other Smartphone’s?
Customers who have an iPhone, other GSM Smartphone devices or Blackberry will be able to transfer and operate those through TelstraClear’s service. TelstraClear is hoping an agreement can be reached to offer the iPhone direct to market

What about data devices/service (eg: Datacards)?
Yes, TelstraClear now has a service to support our own data products services

Will TelstraClear be leveraging services and offerings from its shareholder Telstra?
Telstra’s NextG offerings are world leading and TelstraClear is looking at how it can bring the benefits of some of those to New Zealand by way of content and application services.

What about the previous acrimony between TelstraClear and Vodafone?
That is in the past. Both companies are mature operators and have moved on and are looking forward to a mutually beneficial relationship.

Is this a re-sale agreement?
No, this is a mobile virtual network operator deal that will mean TelstraClear has complete control over all its price plans, handset range, billing and customer base.

Which company will own TelstraClear’s customer base?
As with all MVNO deals, TelstraClear will own and service its customer base. This enables TelstraClear to provide its customers with the option of buying all their telecommunications services from one operator and receiving just one bill.

Does this resolve TelstraClear’s international roaming issues?
Yes. All TelstraClear’s next generation mobile customers will be able to roam in 215 countries with minimal fuss

Why swap from Telecom?
Telecom was unable to provide complete and timely access to its XT network forcing TelstraClear to look at other options. TelstraClear is pleased with the agreement it has negotiated with Vodafone.

The CDMA agreement remains in place – so customers with existing TelstraClear mobiles will not be impacted. However, they now have a path to a next generation service with TelstraClear.

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  # 231541 6-Jul-2009 12:17
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It seems that Telstraclear love to do things half-heartedly. Look at their history with their cable network, mobile services etc.
They have a lot to learn and need to start offering better (or at least equivalent) products and services to the other providers before I would consider them for my mobile service.

If it weren't for the fact that I'm in a share house and it's not my decision, I'dve off'ed them ages ago.

Then again... what more can you expect from a 100% Australian owned company?? And I wouldn't touch Telstra services in Australia either!

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  # 231548 6-Jul-2009 12:25
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Once again another example of minimal investment to get to market.... They could have tried to work through the issues with Vodafone last time, they could have put up some towers and got a roaming deal like 2 Degrees, both options which would have been far better for customers than flip-flopping between 'virtual' providers.


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  # 231549 6-Jul-2009 12:27
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another point...
They'd have been better to work harder with Telecom to secure XT @ 850 as then when Telstraclear customers travel to Australia, Telstraclear could have set roaming using Telstra's 850 "Next Gen" network. This could have saved money on termination costs and made money on roaming charges... or provided good deals for customers when roaming and use it as a marketing ploy for businesses/people who travel frequently between the 2 countries

I know I don't like Telstra, but that is my business POV on the situation.

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  # 231564 6-Jul-2009 12:42
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Good point Tohe. XT would probably make it easier to bring across all the BigPond mobile content and applications to NZ as well...

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  # 231568 6-Jul-2009 12:44
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I was shocked and amazed that Telecom mentioned excluding Telstra's mnvo agreement to extend to the new WCDMA network until much later down the track, a very poor decision as Todays announcement has just shown. It would have been a great complement to Next-G in Australia.

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  # 231577 6-Jul-2009 12:56
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paradoxsm: I was shocked and amazed that Telecom mentioned excluding Telstra's mnvo agreement to extend to the new WCDMA network until much later down the track, a very poor decision as Todays announcement has just shown. It would have been a great complement to Next-G in Australia.

Yep Telecom sure screwed up this one.  I did think it rather strange when reading this item in the paper this morning  that unless the Telstra Oz users have quad band fones they may be out of luck on the Vodafone network here..



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  # 231601 6-Jul-2009 13:29
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If telstra give good hookups on the new iPhone 3Gs im friggen there. If i can add it to my existing TCL package and get a further discount so much the better!


The force is strong with this one!

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  # 231812 6-Jul-2009 21:51
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If anyone from TelstraClear is reading and can answer this:
Will people on a current 2 year contract with the cdma phone be given an upgrade option or be made to wait until the contract is up?

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