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# 40556 30-Aug-2009 19:43
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http://www.vodafone.com.au/personal/iphone/index.htm

Almost feels like we are in another world here in NZ when you look at the vodafone iphone prices and plans in Australia..
Will we ever see anything like this here I wonder ??

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  # 251923 31-Aug-2009 11:05
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Free iPhone 3GS 16GB on $69 Contract Cap

INCLUDES:

1GB data
$400 credit (per month to spend on services)
No access fee to use as a modem (tethering)*

PLUS: Free Evenings and Weekends calling to other Vodafone mobiles


I doubt we will see anything like this in the short term. Maybe when 2d get their 3g up and running and start to offer OA plans... but that could be a while.

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  # 251938 31-Aug-2009 12:07
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I doubt we will EVER see this sort of pricing here is NZ.

In Australia the pricing has been better than ours even when there was only 2.5 players in the market.

Optus, Telstra and Vodafone (the half)

 
 
 
 


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  # 251939 31-Aug-2009 12:09
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Don't forget the exchange rate $69 AUD is ~$85 NZD

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  # 251942 31-Aug-2009 12:32
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Australia is a very competitive cellphone market with 4 major networks. It's probably one of the most competitive markets in the world and has very good pricing.

It's also a great place to lose money as a company like Hutchison would agree with as they've had accumulated losses of something like A$2.5 billion before entering the joint VHA merger with Vodafone. Both Vodafone and Optus accumulated very significant losses before turning around their business models and One.Tel failed not long after it got off the ground.

It's fantastic if you're a customer. Not so good if you're a business looking to actually make a sustainable ROI.


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  # 251961 31-Aug-2009 14:00
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i have heard that in aussie if you want to end your plan you have to pay out the rest of your term.
where as in NZ its just a set amount depending on how far through your plan you are.

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  # 251967 31-Aug-2009 15:14
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Aussie has much the same terms as we do here, or atleast they used to, you can usually pay the differnece between the cost of the handset and what you paid, or the rest of your contract (as I did, well should have)

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  # 251975 31-Aug-2009 15:43
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In Australia all providers have to advertise minimum total costs for a contract, ie you'll see in advertising that it's a 24 month contract with a minimum cost of $1588.63

If you want to break a contract this is (normally) the amount you have to pay. It's worth noting that if you enter a term contract you typically do get a free handset, many people in Australia would never even contemplate paying money for a phone!

 
 
 
 




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  # 252003 31-Aug-2009 17:29
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Interestly enough. If you compare the OZ to the NZ plan.

Basic NZ Cost is $699 + $960 = $1659 over 2 years on a Iphone 40 plan
Oz Cost on a 2 year contract @ $69 as month = $1659 for 2 years on the lowest contract.

Sure the free calling minutes are much higher and other benefits but the NZ contract still has a data allowance and both OZ and NZ contracts are $1659 over a 2 year period.
In reality NZ Vodafone could give a free Iphone with a $69 a month 2 year contract and still get the same $$$ for the contract term ...

How about it NZ Vodafone  ???

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  # 252021 31-Aug-2009 18:16
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cafeg: Interestly enough. If you compare the OZ to the NZ plan.

Basic NZ Cost is $699 + $960 = $1659 over 2 years on a Iphone 40 plan
Oz Cost on a 2 year contract @ $69 as month = $1659 for 2 years on the lowest contract.

Sure the free calling minutes are much higher and other benefits but the NZ contract still has a data allowance and both OZ and NZ contracts are $1659 over a 2 year period.
In reality NZ Vodafone could give a free Iphone with a $69 a month 2 year contract and still get the same $$$ for the contract term ...

How about it NZ Vodafone  ???


They could do something like that, but I think they'd prefer your money :) 

No other provider here can offer the iphone on a contract with a subsidy (excluding telecoms 'buy the phone outright and bring it to us' offering) so they don't really have anything to compete with.



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  # 252026 31-Aug-2009 18:44
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Unless telecom gets the iphone on the XT network and offers a plan like that, then hopefully we might see some action !
After all it works on 3G everywhere on XT on the 850 network instead of just 3G at 2100 on VF's network.

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  # 252196 1-Sep-2009 12:30
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littlescott:
cafeg: Interestly enough. If you compare the OZ to the NZ plan.

Basic NZ Cost is $699 + $960 = $1659 over 2 years on a Iphone 40 plan
Oz Cost on a 2 year contract @ $69 as month = $1659 for 2 years on the lowest contract.

Sure the free calling minutes are much higher and other benefits but the NZ contract still has a data allowance and both OZ and NZ contracts are $1659 over a 2 year period.
In reality NZ Vodafone could give a free Iphone with a $69 a month 2 year contract and still get the same $$$ for the contract term ...

How about it NZ Vodafone  ???


They could do something like that, but I think they'd prefer your money :) 

No other provider here can offer the iphone on a contract with a subsidy (excluding telecoms 'buy the phone outright and bring it to us' offering) so they don't really have anything to compete with.




You also have to take into account the fact that handsets are preordered in bulk, and the amount dictates the price you pay per unit, as with most wholesale units. 


VFAU will move probably more than half a million units (125,000 in first 3 months.. Zdnet), so if you cover VF for the potential loss, tell them to ship 500,000 handsets, just so you can get one for free. As well as everyone else!



If your wrong watch out though, $200 million is a lot to lose if you cant ship that many!


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  # 252220 1-Sep-2009 13:51
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MikeyPI:
littlescott:
cafeg: Interestly enough. If you compare the OZ to the NZ plan.

Basic NZ Cost is $699 + $960 = $1659 over 2 years on a Iphone 40 plan
Oz Cost on a 2 year contract @ $69 as month = $1659 for 2 years on the lowest contract.

Sure the free calling minutes are much higher and other benefits but the NZ contract still has a data allowance and both OZ and NZ contracts are $1659 over a 2 year period.
In reality NZ Vodafone could give a free Iphone with a $69 a month 2 year contract and still get the same $$$ for the contract term ...

How about it NZ Vodafone  ???


They could do something like that, but I think they'd prefer your money :) 

No other provider here can offer the iphone on a contract with a subsidy (excluding telecoms 'buy the phone outright and bring it to us' offering) so they don't really have anything to compete with.




You also have to take into account the fact that handsets are preordered in bulk, and the amount dictates the price you pay per unit, as with most wholesale units. 


VFAU will move probably more than half a million units (125,000 in first 3 months.. Zdnet), so if you cover VF for the potential loss, tell them to ship 500,000 handsets, just so you can get one for free. As well as everyone else!



If your wrong watch out though, $200 million is a lot to lose if you cant ship that many!



Buying the iphone in bulk would not have a HUGE impact on the overall price per unit… let’s be realistic here!

For all we know, Vodafone as a global company could have purchases millions of iphones and distributed them around to the different countries….  You are assuming Vodaofne AU makes it’s own bulk order and gets iphones at a much lower price than VF NZ…. I highly doubt this would be the reason why they are much cheaper (free) in AU… or even factors in the price they charge.

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I think you are the one assuming quite a few factors. 


Each VF company has to operate under each countries financial and corporate laws, so each entity will be unique. 
Then factor in different operating networks, different costs, devices, frequencies, and and host of other things, visual voicemail for example. 


Couldnt find much policy but, according to Vodafone Czech Republic, 


"Every department in Vodafone has its own procurement team. The members for each department have specialist knowledge of the field in which they work. Each splinter group is part of one large centralised procurement department. So every specialist team, be it in Engineering or Brand Communications, has exactly the same policies and processes."


(http://www.vodafone.cz/about_en/suppliers/buying.htm)


And it makes more sense that VFNZ would liase with Apple NZ, rather than Apple US as there are supply, and curency issues as well.




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  # 252311 1-Sep-2009 17:05
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But thats my 10c.

It doesnt look like VF operate as one global entity

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  # 252344 1-Sep-2009 18:11
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MikeyPI: But thats my 10c.

It doesnt look like VF operate as one global entity



Vodafone probably don't operate as a global entity, i really have no idea... it was just an example.

I can't imagine that Vodaofne AU would get the iPhone at substantially lower rate than Vodafone NZ... but who knows.

Definably not to the point where AU can sell it hundreds of dollars cheaper as a result.

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