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ash3rr

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#4397 13-Jul-2005 00:02
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Is this reminding anyone of the early bellsouth days? who's running vodafone now? could I hazard a guess they brought back someone from the bellsouth days????

I feel really sad, because I'm really loyal to vodafone, theres no question they are a better network.. better phones, service, more personality, etc, etc ad nausem...

But the times come where I'm thinking of switching to telecom cause they are letting themselves get ^*&^*& in the ^&^ by telecom!!!

it really pisses me off..

like who remembers when telecom couldnt even txt, all they had was 025 with there shi&&( static prone calls and bellsouth was gsm digital.. clear calls.. pretty damn expensive...

then vodafone bought them out and everything changed... they livened up the mobile communnications in nz... brought out txt, etc etc etc... all these cool phones, and telecom didnt have a chance... it was vodafone who woke up telecom the sleeping giant and forced them to become more competitive.... introduce technology from this century for a change...

but now whats happened?

when are vodafone going to wake up? honestly, ive been waiting for what seems like years now!! its time to become more competitive with the prices!!! if they would only just bite the bullet and introduce something similar to $10 txt people wouldnt all be leaving to join telecom!! who wants to be with telecom? god knows not me!


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#16506 13-Jul-2005 12:53
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I'd say free vf text weekends is equal or better than $10 text now.

It's kind of sad how loyal you are to a global corporation.

What plan are you on? Why not get a prepay or cheap account on both networks?

Unless you use a lot of data traffic vodafone still has much better phones and roaming.





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#16507 13-Jul-2005 13:08
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What a load of BS how can you say that Voda free Txt weekend is better than Telecom $10 TXT?

and ash3rr great logic there - give all your money to a dominating global giant! Excellent.

 
 
 
 


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#16509 13-Jul-2005 13:21
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Jama: What a load of BS how can you say that Voda free Txt weekend is better than Telecom $10 TXT?

How about if you don't send many more than 50 texts a month (a couple of texts/day), most of the people you know are on vodafone, you use your mobile for voice during the week and text at weekends?

There are lots of plans out there and it's pretty easy to find one that works for you!





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#16510 13-Jul-2005 13:30
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ok - well be more specific rather than generalist -

Voda free TXT weekend is better for YOU.

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#16513 13-Jul-2005 13:46
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Jama: ok - well be more specific rather than generalist -

Voda free TXT weekend is better for YOU.

I could say the same to you! What percentage of people really send 50+ texts/month? Maybe you do but I don't. But that's not the point and who cares?

Question: Whats happened to vodafone?
Answer: Nothing. Telecom has been trying harder.





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#16514 13-Jul-2005 13:48
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I don't send 500 texts a month but you would be surprised how many people do. It is a lot more people than you think.

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#16515 13-Jul-2005 13:52
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How vague! With 2million mobile customers would it be fair to say 20,000 (1%) would sent 500+ texts?

Even 10% wouldn't surprise me but it means 90% don't.





 
 
 
 


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#16518 13-Jul-2005 14:13
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ash3rr: it was vodafone who woke up telecom the sleeping giant

Telecom is positively TINY compared to Vodafone!!!







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#16520 13-Jul-2005 14:21
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mike: How vague! With 2million mobile customers would it be fair to say 20,000 (1%) would sent 500+ texts?

Even 10% wouldn't surprise me but it means 90% don't.

Please supply your source of this information.

Without stating an actual figure, Jama has not earnt a closer examination of his results...

Also, It would be statisitically improbable for a survey on habits of 2 million people to yield results that exactly equal 10% / 90% (92.39% is believable (but proabably not true)).

Lots of people send lots of txts, why do you think there was such a big migration in the consumer space to $10txt? Because people use it.

I will be as bold as to say that more people are likely to save more money on Telecoms $10TXT than on VFs free txt weekends.







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#16521 13-Jul-2005 14:25
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To get back on topic, (wheres Taniwha to take the blame for that one???) I think VFs marketing just curled up in the fetal position and sucked its thumb for the last 18 months. They used to have great ads, now they have cartoon people with blanked out genitalia - how quaint.

Intentionally continuing with their plans to lose the 3G race doesnt help them much either.
[oooh - how controversial of me to say that....]







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#16523 13-Jul-2005 14:41
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Er, I made the figures up based on Jama saying "I would be surprised" and it is "more than I think."
200,000 people sending 500 texts wouldn't surprise me but it's probably much higher than actual. Thanks for your statistical analysis though!

I'm sure more people save more money on $10 txt than vf weekends, you'd only need to sends 3 texts each weekday to do so. It's about oppurtunity cost though, vf customers will text more at the weekend just because it's free so it's a false 'saving'.

Disenchanted:
mike: How vague! With 2million mobile customers would it be fair to say 20,000 (1%) would sent 500+ texts?

Even 10% wouldn't surprise me but it means 90% don't.

Please supply your source of this information.

Without stating an actual figure, Jama has not earnt a closer examination of his results...

Also, It would be statisitically improbable for a survey on habits of 2 million people to yield results that exactly equal 10% / 90% (92.39% is believable (but proabably not true)).

Lots of people send lots of txts, why do you think there was such a big migration in the consumer space to $10txt? Because people use it.

I will be as bold as to say that more people are likely to save more money on Telecoms $10TXT than on VFs free txt weekends.





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#16524 13-Jul-2005 15:05
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Disenchanted that is very controversial of you! You can't blame Voda for wanting to get their 3G right even if it has taken longer than expected. I am sure they are saving all their pennys for the massive 3G advertising war chest.

....And I can't share the txting figures with you all. I would probably lose my job! All I can say is that Txting is massive for both Telecom and Voda.

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#16527 13-Jul-2005 15:23
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All the advertising in the world wont make their theoretical maximum speed anywhere closer to TNZs real world average speed :-)







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#16530 13-Jul-2005 15:34
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Correct but as Voda have said before 'its not about speed its about services'.

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#16531 13-Jul-2005 15:36
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Im 100% positive that you dont believe everything voda tells you ;-P

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