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Topic # 4612 10-Aug-2005 12:24

This may seem like a dumb question, but I'll ask it anyway.
Maybe the answer will also help somebody else 8-).

I've been using GPRS for quite some time, and am quite used to programatically getting my modem (normally a phone, but often Wavecom boards) to dial *99***# to make a connection, where is the appropriate context id/profile that I want to use

My questions:

(1) With a 3G phone (eg my Z1010), do I dial something different?
Or do I just do "as I did for GPRS", but the modem/phone will route the data over the faster 3G network?

(2) If I'm out of 3G coverage, theoretically will my phone/modem just drop back to using the 2G (standard GPRS) network?

Thanks for your help.

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Reply # 17924 10-Aug-2005 15:34

Everything is the same I have a V800 and changed nothing to get 3G data speeds and WOW what a difference and I have being all over Chch city today and did not go out of 3G coverage once. I took my Sony Vaio laptop and no issues connecting. I only use the dial up *99#

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Reply # 17929 10-Aug-2005 16:08

Yeah, the APN's are the same, and you should I think actually be able to handover from 3G to 2G coverage if you drive too far from town. Provided the device does both, I'm not sure if all do.

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Reply # 17930 10-Aug-2005 16:14

Yes data sessions and voice calls (not video calls) will hand between 2G/3G during the sessions

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Reply # 17931 10-Aug-2005 16:14

From a friend in the media who has been briefed....

'auto network handover from UMTS to GPRS is problematic. The recommendation is to set the device to UMTS or GPRS only'

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Reply # 17933 10-Aug-2005 16:20

I'm sure there are going to be a few issues along the way any new network does but I am sure Nokia will be sorting out the issues quickly and most devices can bet set to GSM/3G or GSM only not just UMTS 3G.

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Reply # 17967 10-Aug-2005 18:47

Thanks for the info.

One more question (he says hopefully):

Has anyone (preferably with a Z1010) downloaded music successfully?

I've tried several times, but it keeps failing.
I've got 82MB free on my memory stick, but only 1.1MB free on the phone.
The piece of music is 1.9MB.

I assume that the phone will save to the card?

I tried freeing up memory on the phone, but couldn't find much to delete.

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Reply # 17968 10-Aug-2005 18:51

You need to free up some mem on the handset as it will save it there and then move it to the mem stick!

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Reply # 17971 10-Aug-2005 18:58

Hmm, might have to move some games 8-).

Thanks for your help - I had kinda guessed that was the answer, but it's always good to make sure I'm going down the right track.

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Reply # 17978 10-Aug-2005 19:56

Hmm, now have 2.1MB free, file size is 1903KB and it still won't download 8-(.

I wonder if there is some setting on the Z1010 that I need to change?

Might have to google this one.

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Reply # 18096 11-Aug-2005 20:01

I've confirmed that this is a problem (both with Andrewcnz and Vodafone).

They (Vodafone support) suggested I visit a Vodafone store to see if they can change the settings on my phone, but I suspect they won't have a clue (since the Z1010 isn't being sold now).

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Reply # 18097 11-Aug-2005 20:12

I would make sure you have the latest firmware on the handset and if not upgrade on the sonyericsson website

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Reply # 18103 11-Aug-2005 20:42

People should be aware of this comment "Get your 3G mobile from an authorised Vodafone dealer - Access to Vodafone live! and certain 3G services may not be possible on parallel imported handsets due to incompatible software settings."
on this page http://www.vodafone.co.nz/mobiles/3g_devices.jsp

Just because you have a 3G capable mobile, doesn't meen you'll have access to all the features Vodafone Live! has.

:)

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Reply # 18119 11-Aug-2005 21:16

I guess we would have been ok if they hadn't taken so long to do the rollout 8-).

AFAIK, the Z1010 was going to be one of their main phones, but due to delays it reached the point where it was superseded by the V800.

No worries though - I'm enjoying watching the news and Southpark - and let's face it, I'm much better off transferring my own MP3's to the phone/memory stick, rather than paying them per song.

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Reply # 18125 11-Aug-2005 21:33

Confirmed, A Guy with a Japanese SE z1010 today I played with did not access the music download. it said "handset not supported" though it was a Vodafone branded v800 from Japan (edit oops) (flip SE same as Voda sell) the 3G musicstore was there in VLIVE but it came up with that error when clicked. :-(

Also there is a $50 "activation fee" to get settings sent/changed for parrallel imported phones now According to some dealers. This is only just for them to change settings which is fair enough and is a h3ll of a job to do with an import.. I initially thought this was just to allow it to even access the network. This might just be a dealer charge though I know vodafone is looking to stop sending data/pxt/vlive setting to the piles of imported handsets out there due to the piles of horrid junk that parallel importing import for not much less than the retail price.

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Reply # 18131 11-Aug-2005 22:18

PARADOXSM: ... there is a $50 "activation fee" to get settings sent/changed for parrallel imported phones now. Go vodafone.....

Which I think is perfectly valid. Parallel imported CDMA phones are not connected because Telecom wants to validate these phones and make sure the work on their network without flooding their help desk with people purchasing cheaper phones and then having free service from Telecom instead of asking the seller.

Same on Vodafone. People buy imported handsets without any warranty that they will actually work, and then have to keep calling VF NZ help desk asking all sorts of things. It is a cost drain.

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