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Topic # 4630 12-Aug-2005 12:40
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I know VMC term-plan sounds very appealing, but it is only be used with VMC. Like the 500mb for $99 or 1GB for $150 is very cool (although for 24-months, with VMC card free).

However, what about those that wanting 3G phone with data connection, will there be a new 3G data plan? the current GPRS data plan is ridiculously expensive when comparing to VMC's deal.


Also, with VMC, will it be like the previous (GPRS) VMC card that allow voice calling too? I checked with a vodafone rep lastnight in the mall, obviously he doesn't know anything at all (not surprised).


I guess when i get HTC universal and i'd be more incline to use that for voice calling only and simple data. and using VMC with laptop for more serious browsing.


*though, i'm very tempted by 3G and Nokia 6680.... oooooooooh*




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  Reply # 18188 12-Aug-2005 12:50

6680 is fine for data calls, its a pain when your on the fringe and hop between 3g and gprs.

I questioned to myself the fact that it was advertised as VMC pricing, not 3g-data or some other term. They are obiviously trying to highlight the data solution, however has anyone experienced any billing for the 3g network yet?



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  Reply # 18191 12-Aug-2005 13:06
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i was using Nokia 3650 and was satisfied with that, the only let down is the PIM sync with outlook. the nokia conduit is very bad and doesn't map Outlook contact fields accordingly with Nokia's phone book.

So i ended up using imate sp2 which works great for me.




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  Reply # 18193 12-Aug-2005 13:08

same pim sync problem exists, it flips contact names showing them as last,first rather than first,last as i set in my outlook

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  Reply # 18194 12-Aug-2005 13:11
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chiefie: However, what about those that wanting 3G phone with data connection, will there be a new 3G data plan? the current GPRS data plan is ridiculously expensive when comparing to VMC's deal.

This is a good question - because a 3G data phone will certainly chew through the data. Logically there is no reason why a user shouldn't be able to choose the device they use as a modem - especially as 3G handsets can do voice and data simultaneously.



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  Reply # 18196 12-Aug-2005 13:14
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I know.. i am somewhat disgusted with the GPRS Data plan.... VMC's data plan is very very very appetizing and hope to hear VDFN NZ to release 3G data plan.


SNicole, are you using Nokia 6680 at the moment? is it work getting (as in my situation for 2nd "hobby" phone?) I aint giving up my imate sp2 yet.. my next viable upgrade definitely be HTC universal, but i sure love to try 3G at the moment. beeeeen waiting for it for ages! LOL




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  Reply # 18200 12-Aug-2005 13:25

i've only had it about 24 hours nows. ask me in about a week
3g is alright, nice to have especially while it is all free. I am using it in town now with my laptop but could just as easily be on a wifi or fixed connection.

I am trying video calling tonight/weekend when my other person has their handset sorted,
streaming is alright, you get a bit of the blocks you expect, for data its fine I've had no trouble browsing the internet. Music store is a cluttered mess but i've used 1 of my free downloads (if i want more than 5 i'll find another sim to trial with too)

at the end of the day it is fast data enabling these services, the fast data is nice - email on the move, wireless connectivity. I think its important to examine where you will be using it and the level of coverage, at home it had drop back to gprs and was a pain meaning the services became essentially useless.

6680 retails at 1k though and thats pretty steep for a bit of a toy, its got symbian series 60 which from your 3650 you'll know but it is fluid. a bigger rs-mmc card will be a must and the proprietry port restricts you to nokia compatible accessories (ie:headset)
I have left the ipod in the bag though tried the fully integrated 3g experience, but time will tell




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  Reply # 18202 12-Aug-2005 13:29
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yeah 1K is a big expensive toy. and i'd get two if i want the toy... what fun to do video calling with just myself. or with stranger! LOL

anyhow, hpoe you'll be at geek party tomorrow night? if so, might check out your nokia 6680. hehee




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  Reply # 18206 12-Aug-2005 14:34
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chiefie: I know.. i am somewhat disgusted with the GPRS Data plan.... VMC's data plan is very very very appetizing and hope to hear VDFN NZ to release 3G data plan.

Vodafone would say 'but the VMC card is free so why not use that in your laptop?'

And the reply would be 'but that is on a 24 month term. I already have a 3G handset I want to use as my modem so put the good data plan on that but with no-term because you don't have to subsidise anything!'



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  Reply # 18207 12-Aug-2005 14:57
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hehe cheers timbo. hope that's what it will be. :-)




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  Reply # 18209 12-Aug-2005 15:29
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timbo:
chiefie: However, what about those that wanting 3G phone with data connection, will there be a new 3G data plan? the current GPRS data plan is ridiculously expensive when comparing to VMC's deal.

This is a good question - because a 3G data phone will certainly chew through the data. Logically there is no reason why a user shouldn't be able to choose the device they use as a modem - especially as 3G handsets can do voice and data simultaneously.


The new plans cover both 3G and GPRS use so it doesn't matter what device you use. I do find it slightly annoying however that the rates are the same for subsidised or non subsidised data cards - voice plans they are cheaper with no term contracts.

Vodafone are assuming that if you're a big data user you'll have a data card. This logic is slightly flawed but to if you don't have a data card you face issues like the Bluetooth 115.2K serial port limit which means you need a data cable for your phone which is a big hassle.

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  Reply # 18211 12-Aug-2005 15:33
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Data is data does not matter if using the UMTS modem in your handset or GPRS or this is built into a VMC. Data is data



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  Reply # 18217 12-Aug-2005 15:53
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johnr, ok data is data... so when will we see a more reasonable data plan then?




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Reply # 18220 12-Aug-2005 15:59
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No way I could answer that I don't work in marketing or billing or what ever team looks after it

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  Reply # 18222 12-Aug-2005 16:00
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chiefie: johnr, ok data is data... so when will we see a more reasonable data plan then?


Considering Vodafone have just slashed their prices for mid to high end data plans for the 3G launch I wouldn't imagine any significant changes any time soon..


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  Reply # 18224 12-Aug-2005 16:02
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johnr: Data is data does not matter if using the UMTS modem in your handset or GPRS or this is built into a VMC. Data is data

But looks like the new VMC plans are ONLY available with VMC card. Are you sure these plans can be used with other mobile data devices like 3G handsets?

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