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kiwimatt

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#46481 6-Nov-2009 20:48
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Hi,

I currently have a wag54gp2v2 and am on Fusion. We want to introduce wireless N networking but I am not sure about the best way to do this. There doesn't appear to be an option for an all in one wireless N device that works with VOIP. I have heard mixed things about my current device so was open to replacing it if I got better performance.

If I just get an extra device - what do I need? A router, just an access point? How should it be configured?

Any help appreciated!!

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Matt

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  #270777 7-Nov-2009 00:41
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For VFX you would want to get a PAP2T which will plug into a normal router. This can be good because it means you still have complete control over your normal router , where as with an all in one you end up having to install XNets firmware and can run into a few issues with permissions etc.

If you do want an all in one device though it looks like this will do the trick. I'm pretty sure it has everything you were after, although it is a little expensive.

And lastly if you dont mind sticking with you WAG54PGv2 (the same device I use) then you could get a Wireless N Access point, but a quick look on Pricespy showed the cost is almost as much as the router with VOIP and Wireless N built in.

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  #270804 7-Nov-2009 09:42
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Hey I use A PAP2T with a WAG160N and everything seems to work fine. Great call quality and no dropped calls so far

 
 
 
 


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  #275746 24-Nov-2009 10:51
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Why would you use a PAP2T when you can use an SPA2102???

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  #275748 24-Nov-2009 10:56
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An other option is an AG310. This is a non-wireless 4 port ADSL/VoIP router. Then add a standard N spec wireless access point.




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  #275752 24-Nov-2009 11:13
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Tizza5: Why would you use a PAP2T when you can use an SPA2102???


Not sure I appreciate the difference between them - the PAP2T seemed cheaper, is all.  What would I gain by upgrading?

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  #275755 24-Nov-2009 11:26
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Not having to reboot the SPA2102 everytime there is a glitch in your internet service!

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  #275867 24-Nov-2009 16:50
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My understanding is the PAP2T is an end point device where as the SPA2102 is a feed-through device. The PAP2T only requests that the upstream router does traffic management where as the SPA2102 handles the traffic management (if connected between your modem and router).

Also the SPA2102 has better CODECs and better performance. It is a newer device with improvements. Little price difference, in my opinion not worth saving a few dollars (and I'm someone that usually goes for the cheapest option).




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  #278335 1-Dec-2009 15:04
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Whats the difference between the spa2102 and spa3102?




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  #278339 1-Dec-2009 15:10
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Zeon: Whats the difference between the spa2102 and spa3102?


pretty much the same but spa2102 has 2 voip ports while the spa3102 has one voip port and one analog port.

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  #278349 1-Dec-2009 15:33
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The analogue port of the 3102 is so you can have both VoBB (voice over broadband) and POTS on one phone. It also provides fallback when the VoBB is down.




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  #278537 1-Dec-2009 23:13
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Why use a 2102 (the minimal price difference not withstanding, which mean it is actually a reasonable deal), when it's simply providing ATA functions, as a PAP2T would, when it's behind a better router which is already providing traffic management through QoS and also allowing better network control.

I'm talking about running a PAP2T behind a WRT54GL or other half-decent router. Don't see the point of an all-in-one in this setting, or using an SPA2102 - or am I missing something (probably yes!)?

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  #278558 2-Dec-2009 00:21
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Apparently the SPA2102 is better for faxing?




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  #278584 2-Dec-2009 06:18
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The SPA2102 supports t38 for fax, the PAP2T does not , it is also a older generation of hardware




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  #278585 2-Dec-2009 06:26
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I'm an electronic engineer, can tell you many stories about how bad "older generation" hardware is. Standards get stricter every couple of years which forces designers to be better at their designs. (It also means designers need to purchase the new standards documents so the standards authorities get income from changing it.)




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  #278606 2-Dec-2009 07:50
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sultanoswing: Why use a 2102 (the minimal price difference not withstanding, which mean it is actually a reasonable deal), when it's simply providing ATA functions, as a PAP2T would, when it's behind a better router which is already providing traffic management through QoS and also allowing better network control.

I'm talking about running a PAP2T behind a WRT54GL or other half-decent router. Don't see the point of an all-in-one in this setting, or using an SPA2102 - or am I missing something (probably yes!)?

I should add a comment here from my experience with a SPA2102 vs. PAP2T:

-  When used in Pass-thru Mode, the performance of SPA2102 as a router is terrible
-  It seems to have a very underpowered CPU because the setup menu functions took a lot longer to load than with most other routers in recent times
-  When used as a straight ATA, it is fine, but then why not go for a PAP2T if you are going to do that?
-  Unless of course, faxing is important to you
-  SPA2102 is also more complicated to setup due to the extra network port

If I was doing a new install on an ADSL site, with the current options that are available, I would recommend the AG310.  It is a much newer generation of hardware, newer even than the SPA2102, and will do the Upstream Prioritisation for you, whereas PAP2T by itself won't, and I have had mixed success with getting other routers to prioritise the upstream VoIP traffic.  My WRT54GP2 (or something like that) with built-in VoIP ports, does it OK, but other routers I have tried don't.

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