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Topic # 5899 7-Dec-2005 07:57
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cingular just launched the first HSDPA network in the world. And they say average speeds are 400-700 Kpbs. Not more than average CDMA EVDO after all.

How are the Vodafone tests doing?





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Reply # 24356 7-Dec-2005 10:06
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Aren't you asking for sensitive information here?

I'd think anyone posting a reply to this with details would:
a) Have to work for VF
b) Be getting themselves in trouble.



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Reply # 24357 7-Dec-2005 10:14
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Sort of... I know VF NZ people won't post, and people testing can't disclose this information due to NDA.

But it's good to stir things up - pointing to the fact that the first commercial HSDPA deployment is being very cautious in promising speeds closer to reality - there were old posts aroun here promising miracles when HSDPA arrives...







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Reply # 24358 7-Dec-2005 10:38
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EV-DO advised of 2.4 megabits downlink whats the true average speed in real world and its early days of HSDPA same as EV-DO

500k low latency sounds good to me



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Reply # 24360 7-Dec-2005 10:57
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Yes, but an average of 500Kpbs with a promise of 2.4Mbps is more palatable than an average of 700Kbps with a a 14.4Mbps expectation (read the second post).

The whole thing comes to CDMA EVDO promising more speeds on Rev A, and future Rev B. HSDPA was inflated in the media, but it will probably be nowhere near the initial expectations.








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Reply # 24361 7-Dec-2005 10:59
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Or this article:

"Various other companies have demonstrated throughput speeds of over 1 Mbps for this technology, and peak speed claims of over 14 Mbps are also common. "...





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Reply # 24363 7-Dec-2005 11:18

Did you know guys that in the world every 8 subscriber out of 10 are using GSM network?
Have you tried to bring your EV-DO phones to Europe for example and use roaming there?




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Reply # 24364 7-Dec-2005 11:25
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How can they be the first when Manx Telecom (O2's network on the Isle of Man) went live on November 1st?

Their download limit is capped at 1.3 Mbit/s down and 128kbps up due to the Lucent gear they have, the upload will be increased to 384kbps by early next year and downloads to 3.6 Mbit/s by the middle of next year.

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Reply # 24366 7-Dec-2005 11:29
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sbiddle: How can they be the first when Manx Telecom (O2's network on the Isle of Man) went live on November 1st?

Their download limit is capped at 1.3 Mbit/s down and 128kbps up due to the Lucent gear they have, the upload will be increased to 384kbps by early next year and downloads to 3.6 Mbit/s by the middle of next year.


Looking at their site however they may have had the first network but it isn't exactly affordable.. Now everybody stop moaning about data prices in NZ!!


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Reply # 24367 7-Dec-2005 11:41
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freitasm there are different stages to HSPDA and further software changes are introducted in the furture to improve speed its just like ED-DO and then EVDO rev A

Best to check out Nokia.com and read the HSDPA white paper about this



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Reply # 24368 7-Dec-2005 11:42
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Aloha: Did you know guys that in the world every 8 subscriber out of 10 are using GSM network?
Have you tried to bring your EV-DO phones to Europe for example and use roaming there?
Did you know there are CDMA networks in Europe now?

Again, the thread is not about GSM x CDMA roaming, but about cellular technologies promises in terms of usability (including speed).





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Reply # 24371 7-Dec-2005 12:29
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freitasm: Did you know there are CDMA networks in Europe now?


This is interesting. Are these networks that have been established recently? Is their coverage reasonable?

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Reply # 24373 7-Dec-2005 12:50

CDMA map
Then click on Europe

sorry for offtopic earlier





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Reply # 24374 7-Dec-2005 13:11

Some statistics

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Reply # 24399 7-Dec-2005 22:36

I just spoke with Voda HSDPA. He is fine, sending greetings for everyone.




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Aloha: I just spoke with Voda HSDPA. He is fine, sending greetings for everyone.


When you see him next can you tell him he owes me a beer ;)

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