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Topic # 67595 4-Sep-2010 11:16
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I've asked the question a few years ago, then it was hard/expensive.  We're about to build a new home and things have moved on so I'm asking again, in the public, as I'm sure others would also benefit from the answer.  This is specifically for WxC FTTH services and I'm sure Maverick or one of the others will reply.

We are in Pakuranga, Auckland and have fibre running past our home.  We are about to build a new home (and remove the old) and need to fork out lots of money to move overhead power and phone lines underground.  So instead of paying to move the copper phone line underground, it might be worth connecting to fibre.

The fibre connection stump is perfectly located on the boundary of our property where we will be getting a new driveway so all we're after is 20m of fibre from the road to the garage before the driveway is made, and hardware installation.  I believe the hardware installation costs $199.  The Vector web site shows fibre ~500m away down Te Rakau Drive (300m away) but we do have stumps every 2 houses and I've seen one with a broken cover revealing a fibre junction box.

What I'm after is the cost for 20m fibre installation, is there any cost additional to $99 per month, and will my static IP address still be free?  Thanks.




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  Reply # 376569 4-Sep-2010 13:56
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I've confirmed that the stub outside our home is for Telecom fibre. Now just waiting to see what it will cost...




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  Reply # 376571 4-Sep-2010 14:09
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Hi Niel,

Fibre Options with Telecom are only available where they reticulated for FTTH, at this stage this would only be in new subdivisions I'm afraid, if Telecom had Fibre running past it could be for other uses back haul, FTTN etc so really unless it is part of the new subdivisons then FTTH will not be available I'm sorry. as much as I would like to it probably won't be possible




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Both http://www.broadbandmap.govt.nz/map/
and http://www.chorus.co.nz/f388,10988/Chorus_Fibre_Auckland.pdf
show fibre running down our road and we have stubs at every second house so the fibre is there. We need to get an electrical junction pit installed next to a stub and it would have been great if we could have installed fibre to our home at the same time before pouring a driveway.

I remember when fibre was installed in our road about 5 or so years ago. Other streets off our's are proposed but not done. Seems like they've prioritised routes to businesses and schools.

So it is then probably not available until Telecom flick the switch. Somewhere on the Telecom/Chorus site there is mention of 75% fibre coverage by I think 2015.




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  Reply # 376670 4-Sep-2010 18:02
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If you are going to the length of re-doing a driveway it might be work wiring your house and connection as per the instruction here http://www.chorus.co.nz/Get-your-place-ready

At least when they start accepting connections it will be a pretty easy affair, and you won't need to dig up your driveway or lawn.

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  Reply # 376683 4-Sep-2010 18:44
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Neil, unless this is a new subdivision with a deliberate FTTH reticulation (they dont do copper in these situations) then what you are looking at is not fibre that you can access.

You say there are pedastals for this fibre between each section pair, what exactly do these look like, are you certain these are not for the failed Telecom HFC network, if you have copper to this property now then it is very unlikely that its a FTTH situation, any fibre thats there will be backhaul. The Chorus fibre plan you link only shows backhaul (to my knowledge).

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  Reply # 376763 5-Sep-2010 08:14
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Short fat pillars with Telocom's name on it, not the thin tall pillars which are copper. Ones with broken covers show a small square metal box and 2 round cables (or fibre) going into the ground.

Had a chat with a guy at Max Net, can do only business connections at this stage. The Telecom map shows fibre running past my work, and also into my work. So guess we're on a fibre connection. I'll see if I can find out more from them.

We're building a new house (not only driveway) and I'm an electronic engineer, the wiring I pay for will stop in the garage and everything else I'll DIY. Conduit installed in walls so I can add wiring as and when needed.




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  Reply # 376794 5-Sep-2010 10:10
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Niel: Short fat pillars with Telocom's name on it, not the thin tall pillars which are copper. Ones with broken covers show a small square metal box and 2 round cables (or fibre) going into the ground.


Sounds like the old First Media HFC equipment, in which case it's coax not fibre.


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  Reply # 376797 5-Sep-2010 10:22
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Hi Niel, I would suggest that what you see are remnants of the old Telecom First Media HFC network, long since disbanded.

If you were in a FTTH area then you would know, and the copper pedastals would not be in place.

Fibre backhaul is all over the country and even more so know that the FTTN network is in place. However the fibre is pretty much always (infact pretty much 100%) underground and any access is via reentrantable enclosures that are in pits not pedastals. Obviously it also appears in cabinets like the new whisper ones, but the cores to feed a cabinet will be extracted from an enclosure to the side of the cabinet in a pit.

All backhaul fibre is not for direct access for residential services, business yes, residental no unless you have recently robbed a bank.

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  Reply # 376799 5-Sep-2010 10:31
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I am in Pakuranga and I can confirm they are fibre Pedestals. When National was last in Power, our local MP Maurice Williamson was Minister for Communications and did a deal with Telecom to install fibre into the area. None of it is operational however (AFAIK anyway), at least not for residential deployments. Telecom may be able to provision business grade services using it however that's like $1k+ per month.

The Exchange is in Grammar School Road (where I live :) ) so your probably gonna be pretty close if your are in Pakuranga Heights for copper.





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  Reply # 376801 5-Sep-2010 10:32
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BTW if your are rebuilding your home, as mentioned definitely look at the TCF & Chorus guidelines and doing a proper structured cable installation for your internal network wiring. Also if your redoing the drive it may also be worth installing a duct.





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  Reply # 376811 5-Sep-2010 10:52
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It may very well be a fibre out in your street, but if they bring it into your house they will pull it through your existing leadin conduit, standard telecom 20mm green PVC that has an inside diameter of 23mm and uses 300mm swept bends where ever it changes significant direction.

It helps if you attach it to the house on a wall where directly inside is your home hub or at least two cat5e runs from that point to your home hub and a GPO, all explained in the TCF.

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  Reply # 376935 5-Sep-2010 17:41
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Zeon: so your probably gonna be pretty close if your are in Pakuranga Heights for copper.


Edgewater area, but closer to SE Highway (too much info...).




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