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# 70148 19-Oct-2010 11:52

www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/07/ipad-users-data-chart/

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  # 393587 19-Oct-2010 13:34
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NZ is getting ripped off

7th most expensive.




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  # 393611 19-Oct-2010 14:26
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wuhu! at least something cheaper then in US :D




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  # 393621 19-Oct-2010 14:54
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Hey in the comments on that link a dude said at&t actually charge you to receive a call. So if someone calls you and you answer it you have to pay for the call. New Zealand carriers don't charge to receive calls. Also take a look at at&t prices here:

http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/messaging-internet/messaging/faq.jsp#costs-im

You actually have to pay to receive an sms(text message). So how would this work? If a person sends you a text message do you have to pay straight away because what if someone sent you 20 spam text messages that you didn't even want?, do you have to pay? People could run up your phone bill easily if every text message you receive is charged. 

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  # 393639 19-Oct-2010 15:32

tombrownzz: Hey in the comments on that link a dude said at&t actually charge you to receive a call. So if someone calls you and you answer it you have to pay for the call. New Zealand carriers don't charge to receive calls. Also take a look at at&t prices here:

http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/messaging-internet/messaging/faq.jsp#costs-im

You actually have to pay to receive an sms(text message). So how would this work? If a person sends you a text message do you have to pay straight away because what if someone sent you 20 spam text messages that you didn't even want?, do you have to pay? People could run up your phone bill easily if every text message you receive is charged. 


That's exactly what happens. Even if you don't want the call or the TXT, you pay.

Plenty of folk forget this when comparing prices (and yes I know that some telcos offer bundles and buckets of minutes/TXTs so it's "not a problem" but it still rankles me that only half the pricing is taken into account).

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  # 393645 19-Oct-2010 15:52
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this was posted a while ago I'm pretty sure.

I'd say us being 7th most expensive is pretty good (there are 18 countries on the list, so we are just below half way).

Also, the assumption that the users on 'unlimited' plans will use anywhere even remotely close to 30GB per month is absurd. sure, some might, but the vast majority won't.

the comparison does not take into account the actual cost of the plan enough.
If voda NZ launched a plan that gave you 1000GB for $450USD per month then they would be the cheapest by that comparison.

A better table would be to show how much you pay in different countries to get
a) 250MB b) 1G c) 5GB and d) 20GB


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  # 393653 19-Oct-2010 16:02
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PaulBrislen:
tombrownzz: Hey in the comments on that link a dude said at&t actually charge you to receive a call. So if someone calls you and you answer it you have to pay for the call. New Zealand carriers don't charge to receive calls. Also take a look at at&t prices here:

http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/messaging-internet/messaging/faq.jsp#costs-im

You actually have to pay to receive an sms(text message). So how would this work? If a person sends you a text message do you have to pay straight away because what if someone sent you 20 spam text messages that you didn't even want?, do you have to pay? People could run up your phone bill easily if every text message you receive is charged. 


That's exactly what happens. Even if you don't want the call or the TXT, you pay.

Plenty of folk forget this when comparing prices (and yes I know that some telcos offer bundles and buckets of minutes/TXTs so it's "not a problem" but it still rankles me that only half the pricing is taken into account).

Paul


not only that but US pricing almost always excludes sales tax (their version of GST) because how much that is depends on the state.  Often it means that the prices quoted for a plan will actually be 5%+ higher than it seems.
NZ pricing almost always includes GST so is not directly comparable.

 
 
 
 


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  # 393669 19-Oct-2010 16:37
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PaulBrislen:
tombrownzz: Hey in the comments on that link a dude said at&t actually charge you to receive a call. So if someone calls you and you answer it you have to pay for the call. New Zealand carriers don't charge to receive calls. Also take a look at at&t prices here:

http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/messaging-internet/messaging/faq.jsp#costs-im

You actually have to pay to receive an sms(text message). So how would this work? If a person sends you a text message do you have to pay straight away because what if someone sent you 20 spam text messages that you didn't even want?, do you have to pay? People could run up your phone bill easily if every text message you receive is charged. 


That's exactly what happens. Even if you don't want the call or the TXT, you pay.

Plenty of folk forget this when comparing prices (and yes I know that some telcos offer bundles and buckets of minutes/TXTs so it's "not a problem" but it still rankles me that only half the pricing is taken into account).

Paul


Couldn't this be abused though? If a person only had $20 on his/her phone, a enemy could just sends lots of texts to a person's number to intentionally run the credit down right? Or do usa carriers offer users free call barring and free text barring?

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  # 393671 19-Oct-2010 16:40

Absolutely they could. This is why Do Not Call lists are so popular in the US and why we resist the move to "Bill and Keep" so vigorously - one of the models in a BAK world is to pay to receive calls on your mobile.

It's very easy to guess mobile phone numbers as well. Email addresses are somewhat harder but phone numbers follow set patterns. So if 021 000 001 doesn't work, move on to 021 000 002 and so on. It's a trivial issue to spam a lot of people and cost them a lot of money.

Best avoid it I say.




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  # 393691 19-Oct-2010 17:07
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tombrownzz: Couldn't this be abused though? If a person only had $20 on his/her phone, a enemy could just sends lots of texts to a person's number to intentionally run the credit down right? Or do usa carriers offer users free call barring and free text barring?

Didn't someone "hack" Justin Beiber's something social media account, so he tweeted up this guy's number and said it was his (JB's) so that all girls around the world simultaneously TXT'd it?

Yes, Justin Beiber on tech forums.

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