Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


36 posts

Geek
Inactive user


Topic # 8006 27-May-2006 14:01
Send private message

I thought I would make a list on the things I think vodafone can do to make it's service better as there is alot of competition from telecom because telecom have the fixed line advantage and it shows with their freedom plan.

-Improve their autoroam coverage to other countries. Vodafone offer autoroaming for prepay users to Australia,Fiji,Britain,Spain
They have had these countries for a while and have not added any more autoroam agreements with any other operators from any other countries. Vodafone should have autoroaming agreements with India, South Africa,Thailand,China, Japan,USA. All the countries which are common for new zealanders to travel to. There are alot more too.
 Vodafone also need to offer satellite phones for rent when people go to a country with very bad coverage or no coverage at all or with a different frequency not supported by their phones. Other operators around the world offer satellite phones to rent directly from the mobile operator.

-Because vodafone sponsors the vodafone warriors and vodafone select live on tv they should stream these shows live on 3G.I'm surprised vodafone has not offered live television yet apart from live prime news broadcasts and sometimes live skynews. Mobile television is huge over in other countries like britain and is a great incentive for users to buy 3g phones and a great revenue stream for the mobile operator. There is a thing called Cell Multimedia Broadcast which lets operators stream live television to phones and I think it gives 250 users on each base station the ability to have live television on their cellphones as it says here:

http://www.huawei.com/publications/view.do?id=318&cid=96&pid=61

-Telecom is going to have a video calling network soon, and that will make it on a level playing field with vodafone. Telecom also have their new freedom plan with $10 month calling from a fixed line  to 027 mobile for up to 60minutes each call.Telecom also have $10 text to any network. Vodafone should just have $10 a month for 500 vodafone to vodafone national texts per month for all prepay users. They will not have to worry about termination rates because the texts will be between only vodafone nz mobiles.Same for calling, vodafone should let a prepay user nominate one vodafone mobile phone number which they can call for $10 a month and their calls can last 60minutes. You can only change the nominated vodafone mobile phone number once a month.

-Now vodafone needs to offer a HSDPA desktop modem for users with normal computersso they can use it and offer pc cards for laptops. There is already a HSDPA modem out right now for normal computers. You can view it here:

http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11251032/HSDPA_UMTS_EDGE_Modem.html

A reasonable monthly plan with a large data cap and around the same prices or cheaper than fixed line offerings would make it very appealing.

-I do not know if this is done anywhere in the world, but would it be great if there was advertising banners in the vodafone live wap service.It would be great for vodafone to provide things like television listings, movie listings, sports news, and weather for free. The television listing pages etc could have an advertising banner at the top of the page. I mean the internet has advertising banners, why not wap?


-Vodafone should improve their coverage by sending a text message to all it's customers asking them where their coverage is weak or where there is no signal at all and get customers to text message back to vodafone the suburb or place where there is no coverage or very weak coverage and also text message back the make and model of their phone. This way vodafone can start fixing their coverage issues where only telecom have coverage is some places and not vodafone.

-Vodafone optimise their 3G network.If you do not know what optimising a 3G networks means then look at this:
http://www.arieso.com





View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2 | 3
BDFL - Memuneh
61339 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 12090

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

Reply # 36806 27-May-2006 14:14
Send private message

kelly2626: -I do not know if this is done anywhere in the world, but would it be great if there was advertising banners in the vodafone live wap service.It would be great for vodafone to provide things like television listings, movie listings, sports news, and weather for free. The television listing pages etc could have an advertising banner at the top of the page. I mean the internet has advertising banners, why not wap?


That would probably be a bad idea because data on cellular networks is more expensive on other technologies and people wouldn't like the idea of paying to receive advertise, plus waiting to download these ads on a slow handset which probably wouldn't have the processing capacity to keep multiple graphics around the screen?





4091 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 738

Trusted
Subscriber

Reply # 36807 27-May-2006 14:20
Send private message

kelly2626:

-Because vodafone sponsors the vodafone warriors and vodafone select live on tv they should stream these shows live on 3G.I'm surprised vodafone has not offered live television yet apart from live prime news broadcasts and sometimes live skynews. Mobile television is huge over in other countries like britain and is a great incentive for users to buy 3g phones and a great revenue stream for the mobile operator.

This wouldn't exactly please the television networks, who bid huge amounts of money for exclusive rights to show live sports. I would also imagine that if Vodafone were to offer a really popular live stream, then the large number of users trying to view it simultaneously might put a lot of pressure on their network.

 

 m is going to have a video calling network soon, and that will make it on a level playing field with vodafone. Telecom also have their new freedom plan with $10 month calling from a fixed line  to 027 mobile for up to 60minutes each call.Telecom also have $10 text to any network. Vodafone should just have $10 a month for 500 vodafone to vodafone national texts per month for all prepay users.

But if Vodafone were to offer $10 text with limitations, then it would make them appear to be Telecom's poor cousin. Free weekend text messaging is Vodafone's way of hitting back while still differentiating themselves in the market.

 

-Vodafone should improve their coverage by sending a text message to all it's customers asking them where their coverage is weak or where there is no signal at all and get customers to text message back to vodafone the suburb or place where there is no coverage or very weak coverage and also text message back the make and model of their phone. This way vodafone can start fixing their coverage issues where only telecom have coverage is some places and not vodafone.

Their web site used to have a feedback form for people to make suggestions about possible coverage improvements. About three years ago, I suggested that Riversdale (Wairarapa), Taylor's Mistake and Spencerville (Canterbury) were all in desperate need of better coverage, but i never even received an acknowledgement of my feedback.




36 posts

Geek
Inactive user


  Reply # 36808 27-May-2006 14:51
Send private message

People would not have to pay to receive the banner advertisements. And the banner advertisements will not be animated like web banners. It could just be a name and logo of a company or just a website address like at sports games around the playing field they have those advertising boards.


freitasm:
kelly2626: -I do not know if this is done anywhere in the world, but would it be great if there was advertising banners in the vodafone live wap service.It would be great for vodafone to provide things like television listings, movie listings, sports news, and weather for free. The television listing pages etc could have an advertising banner at the top of the page. I mean the internet has advertising banners, why not wap?


That would probably be a bad idea because data on cellular networks is more expensive on other technologies and people wouldn't like the idea of paying to receive advertise, plus waiting to download these ads on a slow handset which probably wouldn't have the processing capacity to keep multiple graphics around the screen?




36 posts

Geek
Inactive user


  Reply # 36809 27-May-2006 15:05
Send private message

Vodafone should provide the live streaming of the warriors games from skytv. Vodafone will pay skytv to stream the games live and users will have to pay to watch the live stream and some money will go to vodafone and some money to skytv.


And why does vodafone want to differentiate themselves from telecom? $10 text messaging is alot better than free text weekends. The two mobile operators copy each other all the time. When vodafone had $49 for 1GB of data, telecom copied it. And other things too. Look at all isp's in new zealand, they offer mainly the same 3.5Mbps,128Kbps broadband packages and they are successful. It comes down to which is more reliable, best customer service,free stuff and so on.If a survery was done among high school and university students as to which they would prefer, $10text messaging from vodafone to vodafone mobiles or free text messaging weekends, you will find and overwhelming majority of vodafone users wanting $10text messaging from vodafone because there is only two days in a weekened for free text, and people text during the week too which is five days.The idea that people only text during the weekend is untrue. Heaps of people text during weekdays on vodafone and feel left out because telecom users can $10text message to any network on any day and vodafone users can't.The main reasons students are on vodafone is because vodafone was first to offer mobile phones here and they can't afford to buy a telecom mobile yet,vodafone has video calling, but telecom will soon have this. Think about this, if telecom started offering 5cent per minute calls to any telecom new zealand mobile, what do you think vodafone will do? Do you think they'll want to differentiate themselves from telecom and keep the price at 49cents to call vodafone to vodafone mobile? No they will not, they will copy telecom and have 5cent calling. No customer cares if vodafone copies telecom or the other way round. Customers just want the best deal.

alasta:
kelly2626:

-Because vodafone sponsors the vodafone warriors and vodafone select live on tv they should stream these shows live on 3G.I'm surprised vodafone has not offered live television yet apart from live prime news broadcasts and sometimes live skynews. Mobile television is huge over in other countries like britain and is a great incentive for users to buy 3g phones and a great revenue stream for the mobile operator.

This wouldn't exactly please the television networks, who bid huge amounts of money for exclusive rights to show live sports. I would also imagine that if Vodafone were to offer a really popular live stream, then the large number of users trying to view it simultaneously might put a lot of pressure on their network.


 m is going to have a video calling network soon, and that will make it on a level playing field with vodafone. Telecom also have their new freedom plan with $10 month calling from a fixed line  to 027 mobile for up to 60minutes each call.Telecom also have $10 text to any network. Vodafone should just have $10 a month for 500 vodafone to vodafone national texts per month for all prepay users.

But if Vodafone were to offer $10 text with limitations, then it would make them appear to be Telecom's poor cousin. Free weekend text messaging is Vodafone's way of hitting back while still differentiating themselves in the market.


-Vodafone should improve their coverage by sending a text message to all it's customers asking them where their coverage is weak or where there is no signal at all and get customers to text message back to vodafone the suburb or place where there is no coverage or very weak coverage and also text message back the make and model of their phone. This way vodafone can start fixing their coverage issues where only telecom have coverage is some places and not vodafone.

Their web site used to have a feedback form for people to make suggestions about possible coverage improvements. About three years ago, I suggested that Riversdale (Wairarapa), Taylor's Mistake and Spencerville (Canterbury) were all in desperate need of better coverage, but i never even received an acknowledgement of my feedback.


19282 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2600
Inactive user


Reply # 36816 27-May-2006 15:32
Send private message

Kelly2626 You are 1 in 4 million

Your ideas are flawed and [moderator edit: according to forum usage guidelines] would send any mobile network broke

4091 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 738

Trusted
Subscriber

Reply # 36819 27-May-2006 15:49
Send private message

kelly2626: And why does vodafone want to differentiate themselves from telecom? $10 text messaging is alot better than free text weekends.

Free text weekends are not better or worse than $10 text; it's just different. Regardless of which option you personally prefer, there is no objective way to determine which is the better deal. By differentiating themselves, Vodafone can secure some customers whose usage patterns do not fit in with Telecom's offering.


The two mobile operators copy each other all the time. When vodafone had $49 for 1GB of data, telecom copied it. And other things too.

They will only copy each other if there is an economic case for it. It's highly questionable whether the $10 text promotion is prudent from an economic point of view because $10 text is effectively a loss leader and heavy text messaging users generally don't spend a lot of money on phone calls or data. There may be a few bucks of revenue from gimmicks such as ringtones and games, but that's not what's made Telecom rich.


Look at all isp's in new zealand, they offer mainly the same 3.5Mbps,128Kbps broadband packages and they are successful.

That's because when the government uses an iron fist to force the market to be competitive, then you end up with a whole lot of cowboys offering the same product for the same price with no innovation in the market. Thanks, Labour.


It comes down to which is more reliable, best customer service,free stuff and so on.If a survery was done among high school and university students as to which they would prefer, $10text messaging from vodafone to vodafone mobiles or free text messaging weekends, you will find and overwhelming majority of vodafone users wanting $10text messaging from vodafone because there is only two days in a weekened for free text, and people text during the week too which is five days.

Kelly, I'm willing to concede that you are probably in an age group in which you are likely to know which text messaging products are likely to be popular. Regardless of that, Vodafone's marketing people undoubtedly understand all demographic segments of the market and at the end of the day, they set their pricing and special offers accordingly.

4091 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 738

Trusted
Subscriber

Reply # 36820 27-May-2006 15:50
Send private message

johnr: Kelly2626 You are 1 in 4 million

Your ideas are flawed and [moderator edit: according to forum usage guidelines] would send any mobile network broke

Sounds like she'd be well qualified to be the next general manager of Econet, then!

4311 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 152

Mod Emeritus
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 36821 27-May-2006 15:57
Send private message

Kelly do you have a good friend that goes by the name of Annette?

19282 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2600
Inactive user


  Reply # 36822 27-May-2006 16:04
Send private message

Kelly2626 do you wear tiger slippers and live down Wellington way? Wainuiamata

1315 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 75

Trusted

  Reply # 36823 27-May-2006 17:14
Send private message

johnr: Kelly2626 do you wear tiger slippers and live down Wellington way? Wainuiamata


*snigger*

I iz your trusted friend
5802 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 140

Mod Emeritus
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 36826 27-May-2006 17:43
Send private message

Kelly... it is always nice to dream..

sadly, we live in a real world where everything affects one another, and there is such thing call real world economy and reality.

I think you need to step down from your "ideal dream world" and actually be in the real world and learn the real fact and way of life in reality.




Internet is my backyard...

 

«Geekzone blog: Tech 'n Chips Takeaway» «Personal blog: And then...»

 

Please read the Geekzone's FUG

 


871 posts

Ultimate Geek

Trusted

  Reply # 36829 27-May-2006 18:36
Send private message

I thought I would make a list on the things I think vodafone can do to make it's service better

^Thats where I stopped reading

I've never had a beef with vodafone, they keep giving me great service!
Stop trying to force your materialistic views on the world! :P

Nate wants an iphone
3903 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 28

Mod Emeritus
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 36834 27-May-2006 22:19
Send private message

I've had a few beefs with them in the past but they've been resolved mostly. Only thing thats outstanding is the stuff news sub which I've requested it to be removed multiple times but it keeps coming back... but it should be fixed now. :)

Though in saying that I've noticed the wait time to talk to someone on 777 has gone up a lot since last year.




webhosting |New Zealand connectionsgeekzone IRC chat
Loose lips may sink ships - Be smart - Don't post internal/commercially sensitive or confidential information!


2366 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 13

Trusted
Spark

  Reply # 36841 27-May-2006 23:49
Send private message

johnr: Kelly2626 You are 1 in 4 million



True to that =D. Kelly2626, do you have any idea what Vodafone and Telecom's main aim is, or for that matter any normal business??

I think you should take some Economics when you get to secondary school, then please tell us your thoughts.

Cheers







Nate wants an iphone
3903 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 28

Mod Emeritus
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

Reply # 36842 27-May-2006 23:53
Send private message

[joking]The main purpose of business is to give away stuff. Nevermind the cost. If they don't give away stuff they are not cool.

Under no case may a business be allowed to make money at all... if they do they aren't giving enough away!
[/joking]

(again, joking!)




webhosting |New Zealand connectionsgeekzone IRC chat
Loose lips may sink ships - Be smart - Don't post internal/commercially sensitive or confidential information!


 1 | 2 | 3
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic

Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.