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#81640 16-Apr-2011 00:21
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Hi, We just got our tv services upgraded from TelstraClear anoulouge to digital. The installer connected it to the tv with RCA. I plugged a cable into the tv out socket and plugged it into a tv in another room, and it seems to deliver channels that we didnt have before (part of a more expensive package) and free to air channels. I thaught this was just supposed to show the same as the RCA output does, Could someone please explain why this is? Is it because the old anaulouge service wasnt encrypted at all and the box was just to try and make it look like it was?

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  #459307 16-Apr-2011 09:26
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You can tube in the analogue channels but apart from the FTA channels they're all encrypted.

All the analogue channels get dumped very soon anyway, the only reason they are still in existance is the delay in moving people such as yourself to digital.

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  #459323 16-Apr-2011 10:36
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Ok if thats the case then what was the point in the old set top box? to make it look pretty?

 
 
 
 


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  #459324 16-Apr-2011 10:38
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Ok if thats the case then what was the point in the old set top box? to make it look pretty?

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  #459325 16-Apr-2011 10:47
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There's a specific frequency in UHF band that is for displaying the current selected channel on the digital STB out via TV RF out -which is what you currently use to connect to another TV in the house. AFAIR there should be two sets of RCAs, that one you use on current TV and you can try with super long RCA cable to get to another TV in the house, but you'll be watching ne selected channel in both rooms.

Using TV RF out has some flexibility until the analogue signal is turned off.




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  #459326 16-Apr-2011 10:50
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Ok so the whole time when we had anouloge we didnt need the set top box? and they just did it over uhf? Some of the channels are a bit wavy..

And thanks for the great reply

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  #459327 16-Apr-2011 10:54
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No, you still need the STB for encrypted channels. FTAs were obviously (via UHF) visible. However TelstraClear can detect/monitor the devices plugged into their network.




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  #459328 16-Apr-2011 11:00
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Well the tv in the lounge plugged into the digital set top box was watching The Box and I could get Discovery and The Weather Channel with the TV's tuner in the other room

 
 
 
 


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  #459334 16-Apr-2011 11:55
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Yabanize: Well the tv in the lounge plugged into the digital set top box was watching The Box and I could get Discovery and The Weather Channel with the TV's tuner in the other room


With the exception of FTA channels and the weather channel all analogue channels have always are encrypted and the STB was required to fix the vertical sync. If you are seeing other channels in the clear I can only assume that the encyption has been removed before all the analogue broadcasts are stopped in two weeks time.

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  #459348 16-Apr-2011 12:53
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sbiddle:
Yabanize: Well the tv in the lounge plugged into the digital set top box was watching The Box and I could get Discovery and The Weather Channel with the TV's tuner in the other room


With the exception of FTA channels and the weather channel all analogue channels have always are encrypted and the STB was required to fix the vertical sync. If you are seeing other channels in the clear I can only assume that the encyption has been removed before all the analogue broadcasts are stopped in two weeks time.


Ok thanks, Do you or anyone else know anything abouit the encryption as some of the channels are like a purple colour and im thinking that might be the encryption 

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  #460647 19-Apr-2011 20:40
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Yabanize:
sbiddle:
Yabanize: Well the tv in the lounge plugged into the digital set top box was watching The Box and I could get Discovery and The Weather Channel with the TV's tuner in the other room


With the exception of FTA channels and the weather channel all analogue channels have always are encrypted and the STB was required to fix the vertical sync. If you are seeing other channels in the clear I can only assume that the encyption has been removed before all the analogue broadcasts are stopped in two weeks time.


Ok thanks, Do you or anyone else know anything abouit the encryption as some of the channels are like a purple colour and im thinking that might be the encryption 


Just get a second decoder.

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  #460761 20-Apr-2011 08:10
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Just one comment, note in Steves post above, all the analog signals including FTA will disappear on the TCL HFC network in a couple of weeks.

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Yeah, About the second decoder comment, I wasnt planning on pirating the tv, Im just very curious as how things work but for now it is cool to be able to watch discovery in the other room until anoulouge goes off and after that it will be mirrored from the lounge. The only problem is is the lounge tv is 4:3 and the bedroom is 16:9, And as the channels are broadcast in 16:9 I have the set top box set on centre crop which makes it small on the tv in the bedroom. And if it set it to 16:9 for the bedroom its perfect... Oh well

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I've been trying to combine the signals from my Telstra box and UHF aerial but the TVNZ and the MediaWorks freeview channels stop working as soon as I connect the Telstra box.

Will this stop happening after the analouge switch off? I need to be able to watch Sky sports etc in the bedroom.

I'm wondering if the analouge channels share the same frequency as TVNZ and MediaWorks.

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luke96241: I've been trying to combine the signals from my Telstra box and UHF aerial but the TVNZ and the MediaWorks freeview channels stop working as soon as I connect the Telstra box.

Will this stop happening after the analouge switch off?



Nope.  The Cable network RF spectrum directly overlaps the terrestial TV spectrum.

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  #464228 1-May-2011 18:13
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luke96241: I've been trying to combine the signals from my Telstra box and UHF aerial but the TVNZ and the MediaWorks freeview channels stop working as soon as I connect the Telstra box.

Will this stop happening after the analouge switch off? I need to be able to watch Sky sports etc in the bedroom.

I'm wondering if the analouge channels share the same frequency as TVNZ and MediaWorks.


FYI what you're doing is also breaching TCL's terms and conditions.

What you are doing tampering with the cable runs the risk of ingresing RF noise back into the cable network. This can cause anything from small issues such as dropouts to to a total loss of cable modem services.

If you are causing problems you will get a knock at the door from TCL.


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