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#91784 20-Oct-2011 10:21

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/5820473/Vodafone-downloads-held-up-study-finds

Interesting stuff.

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#535498 20-Oct-2011 10:45

Humm... I have the belief that a lot is to do with the mobile it's self.

Wifi for example; on my iPhone 4 is stupidly slow, for example a low quality youtube clip almost never loads. But over the same wifi on my laptop it loads in High Def in seconds.

I do note that I am in 2degrees and 3G seems to be faster than Wifi, but then again the iPhone was never good at Wifi... This was just an example and I find that tethering over 3G to my laptop is way faster than browsing on the iPhone.

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#535505 20-Oct-2011 10:51

Does anyone know where the actual report and test results that Epitiro did are available? It would be good to actually see the test results as opposed to a summary news report.

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#535558 20-Oct-2011 12:12

SteveON: Humm... I have the belief that a lot is to do with the mobile it's self.

Wifi for example; on my iPhone 4 is stupidly slow, for example a low quality youtube clip almost never loads. But over the same wifi on my laptop it loads in High Def in seconds.

I do note that I am in 2degrees and 3G seems to be faster than Wifi, but then again the iPhone was never good at Wifi... This was just an example and I find that tethering over 3G to my laptop is way faster than browsing on the iPhone.

Steve - the tests were all done using the Samsung Galaxy S II, not the low level iPhone 4 :)

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#535560 20-Oct-2011 12:16

Richard2011:
SteveON: Humm... I have the belief that a lot is to do with the mobile it's self.

Wifi for example; on my iPhone 4 is stupidly slow, for example a low quality youtube clip almost never loads. But over the same wifi on my laptop it loads in High Def in seconds.

I do note that I am in 2degrees and 3G seems to be faster than Wifi, but then again the iPhone was never good at Wifi... This was just an example and I find that tethering over 3G to my laptop is way faster than browsing on the iPhone.

Steve - the tests were all done using the Samsung Galaxy S II, not the low level iPhone 4 :)

Priceless. :)

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#535570 20-Oct-2011 12:34

SteveON: Humm... I have the belief that a lot is to do with the mobile it's self.

Wifi for example; on my iPhone 4 is stupidly slow, for example a low quality youtube clip almost never loads. But over the same wifi on my laptop it loads in High Def in seconds.

I do note that I am in 2degrees and 3G seems to be faster than Wifi, but then again the iPhone was never good at Wifi... This was just an example and I find that tethering over 3G to my laptop is way faster than browsing on the iPhone.

From what I have found the iPhone 4 on WiFi always tries to load the highest available quality video on WiFi, making YouTube in general on it just appear slow.

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#535574 20-Oct-2011 12:50

starkhorn: Does anyone know where the actual report and test results that Epitiro did are available? It would be good to actually see the test results as opposed to a summary news report.

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It was available on NBR earlier this morning - but they later re-locked the article, behind their Paywall. I have the Full Report, I got it before NBR locked the article, unfortunately, I don't think Geekzone allows .PDF files to be shared on this site though.

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#535576 20-Oct-2011 12:54

Richard2011:
starkhorn: Does anyone know where the actual report and test results that Epitiro did are available? It would be good to actually see the test results as opposed to a summary news report.

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It was available on NBR earlier this morning - but they later re-locked the article, behind their Paywall. I have the Full Report, I got it before NBR locked the article, unfortunately, I don't think Geekzone allows .PDF files to be shared on this site though.

You could post a link to one?

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#535633 20-Oct-2011 15:05

codyc1515:
Richard2011:
starkhorn: Does anyone know where the actual report and test results that Epitiro did are available? It would be good to actually see the test results as opposed to a summary news report.

Cheers
Starkhorn

It was available on NBR earlier this morning - but they later re-locked the article, behind their Paywall. I have the Full Report, I got it before NBR locked the article, unfortunately, I don't think Geekzone allows .PDF files to be shared on this site though.

You could post a link to one?

The article was unlocked for a couple of hours, so plenty of people would of had the chance to get it. Perhaps you could ask Epitiro.

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#535655 20-Oct-2011 15:58

If anyone wants the PDF PM me your email address

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#535657 20-Oct-2011 16:02

I noticed today in another article VF are going to release a 43Mbps dongle and were excited they were getting real world 18Mbps from it. It never ceases to amaze me that in the mobile world getting less than half the speed of the maximum is cause for excitement.. Why don't they just get the 21Mbps network running at capacity?

I can tell you I would be pretty unhappy if I was paying $100 a month for 20Mbps at home and could only get 10Mbps.

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#535926 21-Oct-2011 04:15

starkhorn: Does anyone know where the actual report and test results that Epitiro did are available? It would be good to actually see the test results as opposed to a summary news report.

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Hi Starkhorn,

The link to the a small part of the Epitiro Report is now on the Vodafone NZ website, it can be viewed here:

http://www.vodafone.co.nz/speed

*Edited, as the report on the Vodafone NZ website, is not the entire report (which is 19 pages).

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#535933 21-Oct-2011 06:19

networkn: I noticed today in another article VF are going to release a 43Mbps dongle and were excited they were getting real world 18Mbps from it. It never ceases to amaze me that in the mobile world getting less than half the speed of the maximum is cause for excitement.. Why don't they just get the 21Mbps network running at capacity?

I can tell you I would be pretty unhappy if I was paying $100 a month for 20Mbps at home and could only get 10Mbps.

You need to learn a little about RF.

Hypothetical maximum calculations represent perfect RF conditions and modulation, something that doesn't happen in the real world. There is then also overheads to factor in - it's this very reason why 802.11g is a 54Mbps procotol and yet will only deliver ~17Mbps in the real world.

21Mbps HSPA+ will deliver around 17Mbps in the real world, and combined with a dual carrier stick represents maximum real world figues of around 34Mbps.

Mobile is not sold as a dedicated bandwidth product, and neither is a 20Mbps residential connection.

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#536001 21-Oct-2011 10:11

Richard2011:
starkhorn: Does anyone know where the actual report and test results that Epitiro did are available? It would be good to actually see the test results as opposed to a summary news report.

Cheers
Starkhorn

Hi Starkhorn,

The link to the a small part of the Epitiro Report is now on the Vodafone NZ website, it can be viewed here:

http://www.vodafone.co.nz/speed

*Edited, as the report on the Vodafone NZ website, is not the entire report (which is 19 pages).

Thanks mate.