Damn, i have been waiting for the SE k800 and the Treo 750v for age, vf uk has the 750v for preorder, and they are selling k800's right now and have been for a while, whats the damn holdup, but the k800 will be on the cover of MyMobile next month as im told :-)  and if the damn treo 750v will probably be not worth it without wifi, considering the treo 650 costs a arm and a leg now...