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  #3137867 2-Oct-2023 16:47
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Linux:

 

Mobile data in New Zealand is cheap as chips!

 

Lol, no. No it's not.




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  #3137870 2-Oct-2023 16:57
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Last time I looked chips were not cheap either in NZ.

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  #3137873 2-Oct-2023 17:01
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@Linux you must eat expensive chips 😀





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  #3137875 2-Oct-2023 17:05
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MikeB4:

 

@Linux you must eat expensive chips 😀

 

 

Yes sure do :)


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  #3137876 2-Oct-2023 17:07
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Its not just the $/GB that irks me, the speed caps that reduce you down to 1990 speeds that really irk me and make the so called limitless data plans pointless





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  #3137878 2-Oct-2023 17:18
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Lias:

Nice plan.. how did you get that? their published plans are nowhere near that good a deal?


Prepaid: 1.25gb/$20 and 2gb/$30 


Postpaid: 100mb/$15, 500mb/$25


My mistake, it's now $20 but my prepay package has the data stack which gets 100MB bigger each month and is now 5.96GB on top of my 1.25GB regular data and 1GB social app data, so actually $20 for 8.2GB
It does mean I'm totally locked in to Spark!

 
 
 

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  #3137884 2-Oct-2023 17:45
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Just for argument's sake, I calculated the global median from the country specific medians. Came out at US$1.28.

 

Then I thought hey let's only count the 66 developed countries (as per Wikipedia).. comes out at US$1.23

 

What about the other 171 "undeveloped" countries... comes out at US$1.31 

 

Okay.. how about the G7? Comes out at USD$2.14 median .. more than the other medians but still less than half of NZ... However if you take out the US that drops to USD$1.38 and if you remove the US and Canada it drops to USD$0.62, which I personally think suggests that the North American telco's that are known for being some of the most vile scum on the face of the planet are living up to expectations.

 

I don't know how anyone can argue that Telco's in NZ are not exploiting customers in the face of those numbers. Reminds me very much of what Theresa Gattung admitted years ago, NZ Telco's will swindle us for every cent they possibly can.

 

"Think about pricing. What has every telco in the world done in the past? It's used confusion as its chief marketing tool. And that's fine," said Gattung in a speech recorded on March 20. "You could argue that that's how all of us keep calling prices up and get those revenues, high-margin businesses, keep them going for a lot longer than would have been the case."





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  #3137889 2-Oct-2023 17:55
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Lias:I don't know how anyone can argue that Telco's in NZ are not exploiting customers in the face of those numbers. Reminds me very much of what Theresa Gattung admitted years ago, NZ Telco's will swindle us for every cent they possibly can.

 

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I think we have cheap pricing at all (there's been incremental shift but nothing hugely groundbreaking recently) but we are a relatively sparsely populated country with difficult topography which means we won't have the same economies of scale as some other countries there. It would be intersting to factor in population density to the comparison and see if that has any effect.


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  #3137900 2-Oct-2023 18:41
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I think we have cheap pricing at all (there's been incremental shift but nothing hugely groundbreaking recently) but we are a relatively sparsely populated country with difficult topography which means we won't have the same economies of scale as some other countries there. It would be intersting to factor in population density to the comparison and see if that has any effect.

 

 

So NZ is currently 170 on the Wikipedia list of countries by density.

 

For a "similar" sampling I took from 160 to 180, the median came out at US$1.36, only two countries with higher costs were the Solomon Islands and South Sudan, both of which are impoverished hellholes.





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  #3137903 2-Oct-2023 18:44
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I hardly dare write it, but I am not in NZ either. It is in German, but you will understand the numbers (1€ ~ 1.70 NZD). These are quite normal prices including taxes here presented in a somewhat colourful way. Yes, and you have to take into account what @RunningMan said about the cost in population density and network coverage.





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  #3137905 2-Oct-2023 18:58
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shk292:
Lias:

From their methodology document, they use a median, so a single large value should not be skewing it.


"Averages are calculated as the MEDIAN of all recorded package prices/data limits"


https://www.cable.co.uk/mobiles/worldwide-data-pricing/2023/worldwide_mobile_data_pricing_methodology.pdf


 


Interesting, and i hadn't seen that note. Makes you wonder where all the really expensive plans are and who uses them.
It certainly doesn't seem expensive here, i pay Spark $19 per month and get 7GB. I guess the old saying about fools and their money applies equally to mobile data


What $19 /month Spark plan gives you 7 Gig per month?




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  #3137971 2-Oct-2023 20:13
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MikeB4:

Its not just the $/GB that irks me, the speed caps that reduce you down to 1990 speeds that really irk me and make the so called limitless data plans pointless



Mobile data in New Zealand is not only expensive, it also sucks.

https://www.speedtest.net/global-index#mobile

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  #3137972 2-Oct-2023 20:18
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old3eyes:What $19 /month Spark plan gives you 7 Gig per month?

 

Spark offers a datastack which increases your monthly allocation each continuous month.

 

Here in Oz - data is a little more plentiful. On my daily driver, I get 600GB for $60, the kids + significant other are on 100GB each for $26.  All of the plans are 'endless', so that you get throttled to 2mbps afterwards, although the kids + significant other are pooled together (so 300gb between the three of them). 

 


2 out of 3 operators now have 5G SA too. 





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  #3137973 2-Oct-2023 20:18
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What $19 /month Spark plan gives you 7 Gig per month?

See my post at 17:18 above. All the spark prepay plans have data stack and if you stay with them you can build up a large stack to use each month. I guess it makes for good customer loyalty

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  #3138037 2-Oct-2023 22:10
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Wombat1:
MikeB4:

 

Its not just the $/GB that irks me, the speed caps that reduce you down to 1990 speeds that really irk me and make the so called limitless data plans pointless

 



Mobile data in New Zealand is not only expensive, it also sucks.

https://www.speedtest.net/global-index#mobile

 

Nah that isn't really accurate, since you could have people testing on 3G while other countries may have people testing on 5G, making the results inaccurate


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